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You should be able to run 1440p with the 1070, the 6500 will bottleneck with CPU intensive games but in fact when running at 1440p the 1070 will take some of the load off the CPU. This is because the GPU has more work to do and therefore makes less frequent calls to the CPU for pre-rendered data.
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You should be able to run 1440p with the 1070, the 6500 will bottleneck with CPU intensive games but in fact when running at 1440p the 1070 will take some of the load off the CPU. This is because the GPU has more work to do and therefore makes less frequent calls to the CPU for pre-rendered data.
 
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Thank you so much for responding so fast! and thank you so much for the info, what cpu and motherboard should i get so it doesn't bottleneck on some games
 
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Depends on your budget. Best right now is the i7-7700K but that is more expensive than the next step down.

Choices in the range of an i5-6500 that I would be considering are the i5-7600K and the Ryzen 5 1600X, bit more expensive but better gaming performance.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/8hwqqs,dQM323,VKx9TW,xwhj4D/

You have a real dogfight between these two with the i5 generally beating out the 1600X but not by much, usually 1-5 FPS. But in some titles you see big drops in the 1% and 0.1% FPS scores for the i5 compared to the 1600X, which is because of CPU loading (bottleneck). And this is the current state, should game developers start to take more advantage of higher thread counts the i5 will start to suffer. Because they are pretty much neck and neck in current performance, about the same price but the 1600X is more future proof that would be my choice. Feels so good to recommend AMD again, it has been so long. Not a fan boy, just hate lack of competition. But either CPU is a valid choice, Tom's still recommends the 7600K.

Here are the two paths

AMD
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Jytbj
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Jytbj/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($227.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($101.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $329.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-13 07:50 EDT-0400

Intel
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T92tkT
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T92tkT/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($126.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $341.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-13 07:51 EDT-0400

 
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for the AMD route is the cpu cooler i chose good, or should i choose another one so it keeps it from getting high temps, idk much about the coolers, i'm sorry that i'm asking so much
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qYLgWX
says it might have an issue with the cpu with the motherboard
also, on another note, should i get a bigger power supply, then the 430w for this build
 
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The cooler is a good budget choice and is fine quality but I think that it might be a pain to install here. Looks like you might have to order a special bracket from Cryorig. Change it.

Also changed the RAM to higher speed and 2x4GB over 1x8GB, that way it runs in dual channel mode which is slightly faster and more stable.

The 430W is a little too low for my liking, went with a 620W.

Last changed the hard drive from a 5400 RPM to a 7200 RPM, much faster.
http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Seagate-Barracuda-1TB-2016-vs-WD-Blue-1TB-2015/3896vs3520

Build went up by $18, well worth it IMHO.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mVJ4WX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mVJ4WX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($227.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($101.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Case: Zalman - Z11 NEO ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus - MG279Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1080.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-14 10:21 EDT-0400
 
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I like this build, but i'm confused why it still says there is compatibility issues "The Cooler Master - Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard." is that true? or is it fine? I'm unsure
 
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The note is a maybe, the 212 LED Turbo appears to be compatible out of the box but not the plain 212 LED, you need a bracket for that. Unfortunately the bracket appears to be out of stock from Cooler Master.
http://www.coolermaster.com/amd-am4-ryzen-compatability/en/

The Hyper T4 is compatible out of the box, you could go with that. Or a Be Quiet Shadow Rock Slim
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/Zr2kcf,Jsdqqs/
 
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okay, thank you, also, you said it can run 1440p will it be able to play 1440p at max settings on most games at 60fps, or should i drop down to 1080p?
 
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1600x is not worth the extra over a 1600.
You get a good cooler with the 1600 & the saving will get you 16gb ram instead of 8gb.
Ssd & 2tb drive in there.

Dropped the monitor to a 1440p 75htz (a good compromise)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($131.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Toshiba - 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Case: Zalman - Z11 NEO ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus - PB277Q 27.0" 2560x1440 75Hz Monitor ($318.75 @ Amazon)
Total: $968.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-20 04:19 EDT-0400
 
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qYP3pb i wasnt using the 1060, using the 1070, check this build
 
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