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Small office network I set up for my wife has worked flawlessly for the last few years. Plugging computers in and out of the system has never been an issue, they all found the/ a network and shared files and printers.

We had the print server die on us recently and I installed a clean win 7 machine to handle printer services... and it will NOT find the network.

It HAS found the internet, refuses to connect a browser to it, but WILL download updates.

All of the computers "claim" to have found different networks, wife's is on network 5, file server is on network 4 (I have no idea why they "find" different networks, all plugged into the same router) but they joined the same "Homegroup" and share files without issue.

Print server found "network 2" and cannot see any of the other computers, nor can they see it.

Someone help a fool out. What is the issue here? Why can't this Win7 computer see the existing homegroup, or the other computers on the SAME WIRED NETWORK see it?
 
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yes homegroup, under win 10 there was a way to create a local group by following the create home group tool

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-setup-and-manage-windows-10-homegroup-local-network

the ips on all machines, can you do a ping to the other machines? run on console the command ipconfig, on the field ipv4 copy that ip address

from the win 7 machine on console write ping and the ip address of the other win10 machine you just copied

if it never finds the ip, run ipconfig on the same win 7 pc, the address must be very similar, if it is different, your problem is related to the network itself, wires and the switch used
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you've probably done this already, but i would unplug everything and then plug it one by one back in to the router.
also are they static or dhcp addresses? possible the router puts them in different subnets?
 
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I will try that tonight, I DID do that with the print server, but not the others since they were working.
DHCP addresses set by the router.
 
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Don't worry about the different network numbers, that is actually a number linked to the hardware of that pc. I updated a driver and it went from network to network 2.

As for the network issue, I seriously think Microsoft has disabled windows 10 from seeing anything out of support. I had a windows XP print server that Windows 8 could never find, had to manually link it to //printserver/hpprinter to finally get Windows 8 to print on the XP server, Windows 10 refused to search for it or allow me to directly link to it. Hard to give up that particular HP officejet all in one as well as it worked, It never got a driver for Vista or Beyond.
 
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That is an interesting point, that is says everything is fine, (no error messages) it just cannot use a browser or see the existing homegroup started on a win10 machine.
If you trouble shoot it finds no errors.

I didn't set a static ip address.

 
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I will try adding the win7 address manually to the other computers tonight.
This still leaves me stumped (assuming it works) on why Chrome & IE just spin their wheels when I search or type in a web address.
I need to be able to search for drivers and such with this computer, otherwise I wouldn't care if it ever found the internet as long as it would print.
 
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Network discovery is turned on.

When you ask "is it in the same group"... do you mean homegroup, because it cannot see the homegroup that I started on one of the win10 machines.
All other computers (win 10) are joined to the same homegroup despite their various "network" numbers.

 
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yes homegroup, under win 10 there was a way to create a local group by following the create home group tool

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-setup-and-manage-windows-10-homegroup-local-network

the ips on all machines, can you do a ping to the other machines? run on console the command ipconfig, on the field ipv4 copy that ip address

from the win 7 machine on console write ping and the ip address of the other win10 machine you just copied

if it never finds the ip, run ipconfig on the same win 7 pc, the address must be very similar, if it is different, your problem is related to the network itself, wires and the switch used
 
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