Ryzen WorkStation what GPU?

Ricky5555

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Hi guys

I'm building a new system around the Ryzen 1700 CPU. I'll be using the machine to power a 4K monitor and work will be mainly photoshop large images, some premier video editing and some solid works CAD. No games at all. What GPU would you recommend? Can't afford Quadro or Fire etc need to be around the £300 bracket. I was looking at a 8gb RX 580. Would I benefit from spending this much? How much does Premier etc benefit from a good GPU?

I don't mind spending but don't want to waste money on something I won't get the benefit from.

Cheers Richard
 
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Well and card prices are through the roof mate so yes.

1050ti or 1060 3gb , I don't think the 6gb models will benefit you for your use at all & they're overpriced at the minute.

In all honesty you could run CPU based rendering on solid works & the ryzen will still do a bang up job without using any kind of GPU acceleration

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I personally don't think you'd benefit much from a mid to high-end tier graphics card. All you'd need is an entry level graphics card, either an RX 460 or GTX 1050 2GB would already be perfectly fine.

Although I think it kind of depends how much you'll be using Solidworks, which is the only really graphics intensive program here.
 
Well and card prices are through the roof mate so yes.

1050ti or 1060 3gb , I don't think the 6gb models will benefit you for your use at all & they're overpriced at the minute.

In all honesty you could run CPU based rendering on solid works & the ryzen will still do a bang up job without using any kind of GPU acceleration
 
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Dump the cooler , not required mate

Swapped the board because I rate the pro 4 highly.
Ram go with 4x2666 because it will run that speed.

Swapped the 4tb out for the 3tb DT because it's virtually the same drive , 1tb less but £50 cheaper - far better value.
Add another one in the future if its required.
The sole drives I use now ,unbeatable on value.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£274.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£192.95 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£112.80 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£73.70 @ Eclipse Computers)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card (£127.46 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Inwin - 805 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case (£124.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£84.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1081.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Only thing I would change would be the ram (Ryzen loves fast ram)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£274.90 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design - Celsius S24 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£107.06 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard (£110.73 @ BT Shop)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£260.84 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£112.80 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Toshiba - X300 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£117.97 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Edition Video Card (£127.46 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Inwin - 805 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case (£124.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£84.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1321.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Thanks guys some some food for thought. Just to clear though, I don't want to go cheaper at the cost of performance as £1200 is approximately my budget but I obviously don't want to be throwing money away. That ASROCK board runs M.2 via SATA 3 rather than PCIE would that adversely effect performance?

Regarding the hard disk I have just under 3TB of projects that I want to add to it so if I went 3TB I'd be almost full.

Regarding RAM is 2666mhz the fastest Ryzen can run at or can it take advantage of 3200mhz? I was under the impression that Infinity Fabric appreciated the fastest RAM speeds possible?

I choose the cooler for over clocking and I do like to keep my CPU's as cool as possible to increase their lifespan.

Finally the ASUS Strix B350 has received a great review from custom PC, a magazine in the UK that I do respect. I've never used ASROCK. That board does look very no frills but if its got it where it counts I suppose that's really what matters.

PS
I have been using an iMac for work. How do you think this machine would hold up against the latest i7 7700K based iMac?

Once again thanks guys, this is exactly the type of discussion I wanted to create to help me make sure I was considering everything. Always nice to hear other peoples views.
 

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Yeah dont bother with a NVME drive if it only uses sata via m.2.

Yeah with latest bios updates it seems the faster the ram the better, I dont think any speed over 2666 is gaurenteed to work, but many people do.

This is a lot faster than a 7700k in anything that can use all the cores/threads. 7700k is still king for single threaded performance.
 
The asrock boards have twin m2 sockets , one ultra pci express & a second sata based one

32gb ram - I don't see it getting past 2666 in any scenario

16gb sticks are going to be double sided dual rank.
I'd go 4x8gb personally.

Cooling ? The upper limit is 4.1ghz full stop.
A good 120mm tower will do that easily.
240mm aio's are completely unnecessary for that reason.

If its for aesthetics as much as cooling then fair enough.

Make sure an am4 bracket is easily obtainable though before buying.
 

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Thanks Grandmaster! you live up to your name mate.

What do you mean by double sided dual rank? I know what double sided means but dual rank? and what bearing does this have? my reasoning was to not fill all slots for future upgrades if more than 32gb is possible with Ryzen?

With regards to the cooler. Which tower cooler would you recommend?
 
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-single-rank-versus-dual-rank-ddr4-memory-performance_192960

Regarding single / dual rank.
You'll find a lot of 16gb stick are dual rank & while in essence the performance difference is minimal ryzen has trouble as a platform hitting optimal speeds on this configuration.

4x8gb is a safer bet regarding speeds , however if you intend to run 64gb in the future then really you have a limited choice.

Either way still absolutely go for 2666mhz minimum on ram speed.

There is a large performance gap between 2133 & 2666, between 2666 & 2933/3200 the gap is much much less significant.

Coolers ?? Any good quality tower can run a 1700@4ghz around the 70c mark or lower.

The issue is a lot of these coolers you have to order seperate am4 brackets for still.

The manufacturers ought to get their act together & supply stock to resellers rather than you having to order it separately.

Cryorig h7 or h5 are very very safe bets performance wise.