Should I upgrade AMD Phenom II 1090T for Ryzen 5 or 7

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Yosef_1

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Hey Everyone,

I Can't decide if I should upgrade from my AMD Phenom II 1090T for a Ryzen CPU. I want to know if the upgrades are worth the extra cost or if I should try squeeze out a few more years. Casual gamer and soon to start a web development course.

I've already purchased a new GPU online and will be in all options.

Current System

-AMD Phenom II 1090T
-Gskill Ripjaw 16gb DDR3 1333 mhz
-ASUS M4A87TD Motherboard (usb 3.0 broken)
- ASUS GTS 450 GPU
-256GB Sandisc SSD
- Antec 900w PSU
-Thermaltake V4 midtower

These are the options I'm currentlt looking at
(in Australian Dollars)

1. OVERCLOCK CURRENT PC

-Switch out GTS450 for
MSI GTX 1060 6gb - $384

-Phanteks TC12DX CPU Cooler - $69

Total cost -$453


2. NEW MID TOWER BUILD

-MSI GTX 1060 6GB - $384

-Asus Strix B350 motherboard - $149

-Ryzen 5 1600 with wrath spire - $299
Or
Ryzen 7 1700 with RGB cooler - $405

-Trident RGB 16gb DDR4 3000mhz - $189

-Phanteks P400S - $129
or
NZXT S340 Elite - $149

Total Cost beteen- $1150 - $1276

Which option should I take?
Would it justify the cost difference to upgrade my CPU?
 
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elbert
I actually have a bit better than a 1090T with my unlocked 6 core thuban at 3.72Ghz. This said its bottlenecking my R9 280 and a 1060 would be a huge bottleneck. If you want to step upto a 1060 you need Ryzen. I would only suggest a !050ti with the old 1090T. Here is the tomshardware bottleneck charts on new cards. The highend FX's are in blue so our much older thuban's would be red on the charts.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3192807/ultimate-bottlenecking-guide.html
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q7lIYRK5T0ABLvAkgbM_2jJGvbhlep27mR-eRcCy4FA/edit#gid=0

Here is the cost of the R5 1600 which is as fast as the Intel 6 core 6800K.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

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Yosef_1

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Thanks @Elbert and @mdd1963 for your reply. Is it really worth the extra $700- $800 for a ryzen? Keeping in mind the motherboard and ram upgrades required.
I've seen some comments around of people still getting 1080p 60fps with a 1090t + GTX1060 on some modern games like Dark souls 3 and others.
 
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I actually have a bit better than a 1090T with my unlocked 6 core thuban at 3.72Ghz. This said its bottlenecking my R9 280 and a 1060 would be a huge bottleneck. If you want to step upto a 1060 you need Ryzen. I would only suggest a !050ti with the old 1090T. Here is the tomshardware bottleneck charts on new cards. The highend FX's are in blue so our much older thuban's would be red on the charts.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3192807/ultimate-bottlenecking-guide.html
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q7lIYRK5T0ABLvAkgbM_2jJGvbhlep27mR-eRcCy4FA/edit#gid=0

Here is the cost of the R5 1600 which is as fast as the Intel 6 core 6800K.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($116.89 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($126.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $443.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-16 10:45 EDT-0400
 
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It completely depends on the motherboard you own, I guess: a newer mobo would get you NVMe, the very latest USB ports, PCI-E 3.0, and UEFI (faster boot) - that's always nice to have, but if your AM3+ mobo is recent enough you might not find it that useful.

As for performance, it completely depends on whether you need a lot of CPU power - the Phenom II X6 is still a nice beast, but core for core (and some nice RAM) a Ryzen 5 1600 will be 20-40% faster (at a minimum - you can almost count on double the power, actually). This helps with CPU-bound tasks (video compression, gaming) but for day to day use (browsing, the occasional productivity task) is pretty much irrelevant, as that's where a high number of cores helps - and you already have 6 of them.
 
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