Ryzen 5 OC question
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In theory the 1600x will be better quality silicon but the OC ceiling is so low that theres a good chance they will be within 50/100mz of each other. The memory may be harder to OC on a 1600 though.
I have a 1600 and can't get my corsair lpx 3200 stable beyond 2800. The cpu itself runs well at 3.9
I have a 1600 and can't get my corsair lpx 3200 stable beyond 2800. The cpu itself runs well at 3.9
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That's down to luck of the draw more than anything. I have heard that on average the 1600 and 1600x will reach the same clocks, though I don't believe any significant testing has been done to determine if the 1600x on average overclocks higher than the 1600. I personally would never buy any of the X ryzen cpu's, they seem superfluous when you can get very similar clocks with the non x versions for cheaper.
I bought the 1600x myself. The reasons being, I intended to, and did, use a good aio cooler, so any savings from getting a "free" cooler with the 1600 weren't there for me.
The price difference on Newegg.ca ( buying in, and living in Canada, was $30 for the two chips.
I thought the $30 difference for what many reviewers said about the "X" chips hitting 3200 ram speeds made it a no brainer.
1600x @ 4.0 Ghz, 16GB of Gskill Flarex at 3200 14-14-14-34.
Couple hours tops of research and bios tweaking, (after bios flash to update my Crosshair 6) , and it purrs like a kitten.
I watched a LOT of reviews and testing before buying my parts. final assembly was just over a week ago)
CPU OC's seem to not care whether you have the "X" version or not.
Ram can be a little pickier.
I "can" hit a little more cpu OC, but the voltage needed is too much for a 24/7 OC imo.
So I would say, if you are going to use an aftermarket cooler no matter what, and the price gap is as narrow as mine was, get a 1600x. If for some bizarre reason there is a big difference in price for you, then 1600.
You will be happy either way.
The price difference on Newegg.ca ( buying in, and living in Canada, was $30 for the two chips.
I thought the $30 difference for what many reviewers said about the "X" chips hitting 3200 ram speeds made it a no brainer.
1600x @ 4.0 Ghz, 16GB of Gskill Flarex at 3200 14-14-14-34.
Couple hours tops of research and bios tweaking, (after bios flash to update my Crosshair 6) , and it purrs like a kitten.
I watched a LOT of reviews and testing before buying my parts. final assembly was just over a week ago)
CPU OC's seem to not care whether you have the "X" version or not.
Ram can be a little pickier.
I "can" hit a little more cpu OC, but the voltage needed is too much for a 24/7 OC imo.
So I would say, if you are going to use an aftermarket cooler no matter what, and the price gap is as narrow as mine was, get a 1600x. If for some bizarre reason there is a big difference in price for you, then 1600.
You will be happy either way.
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Any RAM using samsung B die IC's would be best for ryzen, the g skill flare x kits are typically all samsung b die. Most 3200mhz ram kits using say hynix ic's or lesser samsung ic's will likely not hit 3200mhz stable on ryzen unless you really loosen up the timings and increase dram voltage. Brand name does not really matter, its what IC chips said brand uses for their ram.
Ram support is much better now than at launch, but don't buy just anything that says 3200 on it.
Trident Z Gskill I have seen a lot of people hit 3200 with, and is cheaper than the Flarex I bought.
Basically you want to buy a kit that is on your motherboard's QVL list.
Qualified Vendor List.
You can look this up online at the mobo's website. since the list in the mobo manual is likely out of date relative to the latest bios.
In general, ram that has Samsung B die at it's heart is the best stuff.
It's also the most expensive........ I'd do some Googling and Youtubing, keeping in mind that just because person A hit x ram speed and timings, doesn't automatically mean you will.
A good 3000 CAS 16 kit is like... !/2 ish the price of what I paid? More or less?
The performance difference isn't huge.
So you need to decide if it is "worth it"
For me I decided it was, because I intend to drop a 3rd gen Ryzen in to this same mobo with maybe a bios flash 3-ish years from now, and be happy for another 2 years after that, as far as core components go.
So dropping that extra cash on top shelf Ryzen ram made sense to me.
Your Mileage May Vary.
Trident Z Gskill I have seen a lot of people hit 3200 with, and is cheaper than the Flarex I bought.
Basically you want to buy a kit that is on your motherboard's QVL list.
Qualified Vendor List.
You can look this up online at the mobo's website. since the list in the mobo manual is likely out of date relative to the latest bios.
In general, ram that has Samsung B die at it's heart is the best stuff.
It's also the most expensive........ I'd do some Googling and Youtubing, keeping in mind that just because person A hit x ram speed and timings, doesn't automatically mean you will.
A good 3000 CAS 16 kit is like... !/2 ish the price of what I paid? More or less?
The performance difference isn't huge.
So you need to decide if it is "worth it"
For me I decided it was, because I intend to drop a 3rd gen Ryzen in to this same mobo with maybe a bios flash 3-ish years from now, and be happy for another 2 years after that, as far as core components go.
So dropping that extra cash on top shelf Ryzen ram made sense to me.
Your Mileage May Vary.
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exroofer :
Ram support is much better now than at launch, but don't buy just anything that says 3200 on it.
Trident Z Gskill I have seen a lot of people hit 3200 with, and is cheaper than the Flarex I bought.
Basically you want to buy a kit that is on your motherboard's QVL list.
Qualified Vendor List.
You can look this up online at the mobo's website. since the list in the mobo manual is likely out of date relative to the latest bios.
In general, ram that has Samsung B die at it's heart is the best stuff.
It's also the most expensive........ I'd do some Googling and Youtubing, keeping in mind that just because person A hit x ram speed and timings, doesn't automatically mean you will.
A good 3000 CAS 16 kit is like... !/2 ish the price of what I paid? More or less?
The performance difference isn't huge.
So you need to decide if it is "worth it"
For me I decided it was, because I intend to drop a 3rd gen Ryzen in to this same mobo with maybe a bios flash 3-ish years from now, and be happy for another 2 years after that, as far as core components go.
So dropping that extra cash on top shelf Ryzen ram made sense to me.
Your Mileage May Vary.
Trident Z Gskill I have seen a lot of people hit 3200 with, and is cheaper than the Flarex I bought.
Basically you want to buy a kit that is on your motherboard's QVL list.
Qualified Vendor List.
You can look this up online at the mobo's website. since the list in the mobo manual is likely out of date relative to the latest bios.
In general, ram that has Samsung B die at it's heart is the best stuff.
It's also the most expensive........ I'd do some Googling and Youtubing, keeping in mind that just because person A hit x ram speed and timings, doesn't automatically mean you will.
A good 3000 CAS 16 kit is like... !/2 ish the price of what I paid? More or less?
The performance difference isn't huge.
So you need to decide if it is "worth it"
For me I decided it was, because I intend to drop a 3rd gen Ryzen in to this same mobo with maybe a bios flash 3-ish years from now, and be happy for another 2 years after that, as far as core components go.
So dropping that extra cash on top shelf Ryzen ram made sense to me.
Your Mileage May Vary.
I agree that if the RAM is on the QVL you will have an easier time overclocking it. Ryzen works better with faster RAM. Also, it doesnt matter 1600 or 1600X they can overclock the same.
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