Need confirmation for my new build

JaytheHunter · Jul 17, 2017

Hi i am building a pc for gaming/stream who can support up to 3 screen.

I think I choosed everything properly, but i'm not an expert.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/JayTheHunter/saved/#view=G7h4D3

Can you guys tell me if i can drop the price a litle bit, and/or if everything will fit correctly.

Thx for you advice

RektSkrubz · Jul 17, 2017

I'd recommend the Cryorig H7 over the Hyper 212 EVO any day, as long as it's within $10 of it (In US it is, at least).

If you could go for the 7700K, you could easily get another 300MHz with overclocking, and probably more. If you can afford it, definitely go for it.

PC Tailor · Jul 17, 2017

Agreed with RektSkrubz that the Cryorig is better in virtually every way over the 212 if it's within budget. Yet if you're going for a 7700 - I.e. not overclocking, I'd question if a 3rd party cooler is really necessary. The stock cooler is adequate on the 7700 being as you can't overclock it anyway, as long as you have good air flow going through your case, and the Air 540 has good air flow. However if you got the 7700K then the Cryorig / 212 would give you room to OC.

You could always go retail Windows 10 which would knock about 80% off the price for the OS.

Also depending on what you intend on doing for future expansion, a 500W PSU would do you fine on that rig. The 1070 recommends a minimum of 500W and at PEAK MAX load you'd likely hit around 300-400W. So you could save some on the PSU too potentially. But 750 gives you plenty of room for future expansion.

RektSkrubz · Jul 17, 2017

PC Tailor :

I would honestly still go with a non-stock cooler. That's me, though, and I cannot put up with any noise.

Honestly a 500W PSU in that system would not be the wisest idea, as that's pushing those capacitors pretty hard constantly, making them degrade faster. The 750 watt is a good choice. Don't take it from me, though. I'm the guy with an RM1000x

Chugalug_ · Jul 17, 2017

Go with a Ryzen 1600, and run with the included cooler.
Ignore @RektScrubz, that system can run with a solid 450w easily.
If you save up $100 more you can get a 4k 1080 Ti system, performance > SSD any day, an SSD will only speed up boot times and loading times.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($95.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($942.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($67.99 @ PC Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($21.00 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($120.00 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($449.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2256.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-17 19:09 EDT-0400

Chugalug_ · Jul 17, 2017

Alternatively.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($95.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($942.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($67.99 @ PC Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($21.00 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($120.00 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: AOC - G2460FQ 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($290.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $2097.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-17 19:10 EDT-0400

PC Tailor · Jul 17, 2017

I know what you mean RektSkrubz, and I'd always go safe for a PSU. It is better to be safe than sorry, especially with power supplies.

A good 500W will play that rig even with a little bit of overclocking. Even at absolute peak load it shouldn't hit more than 400W (not OC) but a CHEAP 500W would be a cause for concern definitely!

Chugalug_ · Jul 17, 2017

As long as it's high quality it's fine.

Mike3k24 · Jul 17, 2017

Much better streaming build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.18 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($599.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Corsair - Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.49 @ Amazon Canada)
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer ($19.50 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($120.00 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: Asus - VE278Q 27.0" 1920x1080 Monitor ($254.75 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2083.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-17 21:17 EDT-0400

Chugalug_ · Jul 17, 2017

A 1060 with a 2.1k budget?
See above, I've put in a 1080 Ti for the same.

Mike3k24 · Jul 18, 2017

lol I wanted to fit in a 1700 but your build is much better

JaytheHunter · Jul 18, 2017

Lot of you suggest me to go with amd, look like the new ryzen got lot of fans. Otherwise ill probly change de cooler, like you guys said.

JaytheHunter · Jul 18, 2017

Considering these 2 here
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X/3887vs3915

sorry for the double post.

PC Tailor · Jul 18, 2017

JaytheHunter :

The i7 7700:
- will give you overall better max FPS in gaming. Faster single core and quad core speeds
- slower editing/workstation capabilities. It's better at single core processes
- More thermal and energy efficient
- Not overclockable

Ryzen 1700x
- will give you consitently good but likely slightly lower FPS. Faster multi core speeds
- Faster editing/workstation capabilities.It's much better a multithread processes
- Less thermal and energy efficient
- Overclockable
- AMD Stock cooler allows for some overclocking

Personally, the new Ryzen are definitely good... I would opt for the Ryzen over the 7700. However I'd personally prefer the 7700k.

madmatt30 · Jul 18, 2017

1700x isnt worth the extra over the 1700.
You get a decent cooler with the 1700 too.

That said I personally think the ryzen 1600 is enough for 99% of people,its certainly more capable streaming wise than an i7.

My take,a ryzen 1600 & a gtx 1070,1440p monitor combo.
I dont change cases from other poeples build because theyre personal thing.
If you dropped to a cheaper case you could do a 1080 same budget obviously

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.75 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($126.39 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($609.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Corsair - Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Memory Express)
Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer ($19.50 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($120.00 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: AOC - Q2778VQE 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($366.99 @ PC Canada)
Total: $2117.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-18 12:23 EDT-0400

JaytheHunter · Jul 18, 2017

I went for the 7700, since i dont need the overclock, (I hate overclocking). I also took the cryorig H7. Dont feel like a wanted to givea try to the ryzen, I feel this is gonna be better for gaming/stream.

Thx for all your advice, helped me a lot

Chugalug_ · Jul 18, 2017

It isn't, Ryzen will perform identically in resolutions above 1080p contrary to what PC Tailor is saying, newer optimizations have put it on par with Intel in gaming above 1080, and it has double the thread count meaning streaming and rendering is MUCH faster.
Even if you're not OCing Ryzen is still a better option.

PC Tailor · Jul 18, 2017

Don't get me wrong chugalug, I'm agreeing that the ryzen is better. And I would much sooner opt for it. Yet so far the benchmarks I've seen still hold true to what I said, most of my results have been a similar result as what's shown here

Edit: sorry, wrong video - https://youtu.be/TDvk9_iTq6Y
( taking YouTube videos with a pinch of salt)

I'm not saying it's a significant difference, but one is slightly better placed than the other in different applications from my experience.

However I'm always eager to learn more and keep up to date with the latest updates, so if you're able to I'd be interested to see your latest information so I can bare it in mind for future reference, and I'm not being antagonistic, that's a serious request, I just know texting can often sound insincere!

I'm open to be corrected.

Chugalug_ · Jul 18, 2017

In recent updates and videos relative to Ryzen performance, it showed 4k and 1440p comparisons with I believe either a 1080 or 1080 Ti, it was a relatively small channel with 50k subs, but it was pretty damning, and I later confirmed this with a test rig.
There's 1-2fps difference either way across the board, so there's very little reason to go for a 7700k atm.
The 7700k's thermals are actually worse off than Ryzen, just a light correction.

Mike3k24 · Jul 18, 2017

The 1700 performs much better in streaming than the 7700...not sure why you chose to go the inferior route..

Chugalug_ · Jul 18, 2017

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