Is this a good build for a software developer?

Robin98

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Hi everyone!

I'm studying software development en I want a PC that's good for me for the next 5-10 years. I game a little bit, but nothing serious. I like to play games like GTA V now and then but I'm not the type of guy who wants to play everything on Ultra settings etc. The most important thing is that I can work efficient, my PC must have enough power to calculate heavy stuff. So what I basically want is a PC that is future proof for software development. My budget is €1500,-. This is my current build:

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Case: Cooler Master N300 (€46,95), I think this case looks nice. I'm not sure if it's a high temperature case, I want a low temperature case to keep all the components on a low temperature, so I need a good air flow.

PSU: Antec High Current Gamer HCG-620 (620 watt) (€91,10), is this enough for a system like this?

Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING M3 (€157,95), it's not a cheap motherboard but I've got great experiences with MSI (and ASUS too). This motherboard seems to be very good(?)

CPU: Intel Core i7 7700K - 4.2 GHz (€334,90), this seems to be a beast of a CPU. I think this CPU will really be future proof. I has enough power for my for sure.

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X (€37,85), is this a good cooler for the i7 7700K? Currently I have a stock CPU cooler (from AMD) and it makes so much noise and it doesn't even cool that good. My CPU reaches temperatures of 60+ degrees easy (Current CPU is a AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition). The cooler for the i7 has to be quiet and has to cool the i7 really good.

GPU: MSI Radeon RX 570 ARMOR 4G OC (€235,95), this seems like a good GPU for me. As I said, I'm not a die hard gamer but this GPU seems to be future proof for me.

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 16GB (€163,76), this seems good to me. Nothing else to say about it...I've got great experiences with Corsair


SSD
: Samsung 850 EVO Series 500GB (€168,45), I did some research and this seems to be a great SSD. 500GB is enough for me.

HDD: Toshiba P300 3TB (€81,86), I'll be using this HDD to save some data (like movies etc.)

Drive: ASUS DRW-24D5MT (€16,99), seems like a good drive.

Assembly with 3 year warranty will cost €120,-


Total cost: €1.455,76


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What do you guys think about this system? Any tips?

Thanks a lot!
Regards,
Robin
 
For that kind of requirement, Ryzen 1700 will be a better choice. It has more cores and thread to power multithreaded software scaling and compute power along with essential gaming juice. Should last you much much longer while giving you enough performance.
 
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€307.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (€146.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€134.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€51.88 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (€796.99 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 2300 ATX Mid Tower Case (€50.34 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€96.00 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1584.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-18 20:00 CEST+0200

This build can last you way longer than the one you planned to go for.
 
This should be pretty good for your requirement...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€307.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€105.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€132.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€225.43 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€51.88 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (€506.90 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Cooler Master - Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€96.00 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1506.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-18 20:09 CEST+0200
 

Seanie280672

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Ryzen would defo be the better choice, but I really dont think you need an 800 euro graphics card (1080ti), that card is for extreme gamers.

stick with the 570 or 580 which is only 50 more for an 8gb 580, at the moment graphics cards are very expensive due to miners buying them all up.

Not even so sure you would need an x370 board unless you plan to do some extreme overclocking.

with the 500 euro's saved you can get a very decent SSD for the system or an nvme drive as Hellfire13 listed and nvme drives are lightning fast, the closest best SSD is indeed the Samsung evo 850.

something more along the lines of this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/yH32cc

This is with the M.2 nvme drive added instead: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/pm32cc

 
The NVME drive is important for faster compute work as NVME speeds really helps in that.
The 1070 should be a solid middle ground for occasional gaming requirement.
The build i have listed you should last you 5-6 yrs easily for your requirement, and thats just a very modest figure.
 

Robin98

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Thanks a lot for the quick reply's everyone!

I searched again and made a new system. I really don't need that much GPU power. All the components are a little bit more expensive for me because I'll buy them at one store and let them assemble the system for me. I'll get 3 years warranty on the system. This is my current build:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz (€355.81)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€114.95)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 16GB (€163.76)
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB SSD (€234.40)
Storage: Toshiba P300 3TB 7200rpm (€81.86)
Video Card: MSI Geforce GTX 1050 TI 4GT OC (€183.77)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-02 Midtower Case (€65.95)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€95.90)
Assembly for €120
Total: €1549.75

Is this a good system?
 


The 1700x doesnt come with a cooler whereas the 1700 comes with a very good cooler for moderate OC. Also they OC fairly to the same level... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-amd-ryzen,5011-5.html
So getting a 1700x is a waste of money due to the extra price as well as the after market cooler price, unless you are not OCing at all and want to go with the higher clock out of the box.
The rest looks pretty good. It would be better to get the 1700 and OC it and use the extra cash saved for a better card like the rx580 or gtx1060.
 

Robin98

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Thanks for your reply! I changed some things a little bit. I switched over to another shop which has the GTX 1060 in stock. Here is my current build:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz (€329,-)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€124.90)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 16GB (€157.90)
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB SSD (€232.90)
Storage: Toshiba P300 3TB 7200rpm (€86.90)
Video Card: MSI Geforce GTX 1060 ARMOR 3G OCV1 (€294,-)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-03 Red LED Tower case (€64.90)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€102.90)

Assembly for €75

This brings me to a total price of €1486.39

Few questions.

1. Is the case good enough for good cooling and airflow?
2. Is the motherboard a high quality board?
3. The Toshiba P300, is this a good storage drive? I don't have experiences with Toshiba...

Thanks a lot! :ange:
 
Build looks pretty good now.

> The case is pretty good for its price. For cooling make sure you use all the slots.

Fan Mount Locations
Front: (x2) 120/140mm
Top: (x2) 120mm
Rear: (x1) 120mm
Bottom: (x1) 120mm
Fans Included
Front: (x1) 120mm
Rear: (x1) 120mm

These are pretty decent and inexpensive fans... https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/wL3RsY/cooler-master-case-fan-r4l2r20arr1

You will need 3 of these beside the included ones.

> The motherboard is pretty good at its price point and very popular with Ryzen builders for the features included. One of the few boards at that price that comes with XMP profile. Should help you in running higher RAM.

> There is no major difference among the HDD brands as long as you get the right speed. 7200rpm is good enough.
 

Robin98

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Thank you :)

I changed the Toshiba HDD to a WD 1TB HDD which has way better reviews. I went to all my current storage and came to the conclusion that I don't need 3TB at all.

Thank you for telling me about the case fans, I didn't look that far.

I picked these two fans:
Corsair AF120 Quiet Edition Red LED (€14.99) (for Front)
3x Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (€19.99) (2 for Top and 1 for Bottom, so without any LED's)

This seems to be my final build :)

EDIT: Another quick question, are we sure the 550W power supply is enough? For a little bit more I can get the RM650x (650W)
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€307.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€105.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€155.59 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (€239.00 @ Caseking)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€51.88 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB ARMOR OCV1 Video Card
Case: Corsair - SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case (€57.93 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€96.41 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1014.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 19:33 CEST+0200


This is your build.
Check the top right corner of the PCPP page. Your power requirement is somewhere around 300w. You still have around 250w of headroom for overclocking and adding as many peripherals you want. Also you cannot SLI the 1060, so that is out of the question.
But one thing that intrigues me is the huge price difference from this list and your estimation. Even it is a different EU region, there cannot be such a drastic difference. Make sure you are getting from the right place. Get them online if its cheaper that way and get it assembled from a professional if you cannot do it youself. For that extra cash, you can get some better parts.
 
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Robin98

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Thank you, I'll keep the Corsair RM550x. I picked your comment as a solution since it's my final built (thanks to you guys :))

There is no price for the video card in the PCPP, this results in a much lower total price. With the video card, the difference isn't that big because I also have a assembly incalculated.