Ryzen & DDR4 3200 MHz?

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Hello,

today I have built my new PC, everything is okay and I'm very happy with it, but...

I have a little problem, since I have 3200 MHz, I tried to enable DOCP or just move the RAM Frequency to 3200 MHz, but that lead to boot loops and overclocking failures, I saw many situations like this, but will this be resolved soon? I saw many guys on youtube who tested this CPU and B350/X370 motherboards but they could bench 3000MHz and higher, how come?

Now, I'm running on 2133MHz, can't go any higher.
Moved from BIOS 0613 version -> BIOS 0805 version.

Specs:

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (Non OC'ed)
G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 - 3200MHz
ASUS Prime B350-PLUS

Thanks in advance,
Tony
 
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Okay, i don't have exactly the same RAM, but both are G.Skill with samsung B-die;
These are my relevant settings grouped by where they are found together, i cannot guarantee this will get you any further tough:
(CAVEAT: still have issues with cold boot, when boot fails i go back into bios, then restart without changing anything to make sure the bios doesn't auto revert ram speeds) second run always boots without problems.
EDIT: also make sure you set primary timings to the ones your ram is rated for.

Memory Frequency [DDR4-3200MHz]
DRAM Voltage [1.37500]
1.8V PLL Voltage [Auto]

DRAM CAS# Latency [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Read Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Write Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [14]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [34]

Trc_SM [48]
TrrdS_SM [6]...
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IS that the latest bios revision? Or is it based on agesa 1.0.0.6? If so the high speed memory issues are cleared. Moreover, that ripjaws view is b die ram. So u got the most compatible rams. Worry not. I just read that there are still issues with high speed rams when they r fully populated. Meaning all 4 ram slots occupied config has issues but 2 ram configuration are good to go.
 
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I was on BIOS version 0612, and updated to version 0805, update AGESA 1.0.0.6a

I took this one because it was the highest and newest one in the list. But indeed it was weird because it went from 06x to 08x.

Maybe I should do a downgrade to 0613 and see if that works? I was on 0612 first.
 
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Yes, I can access the timings.

Here are some photo's of my BIOS settings currently. I didn't take all photos of the timings because the list is very long haha...

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Thanks in advance!
 
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Seanie280672

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All those sub timings that you have hard set, set them back to auto, my board hates those being hard set and refuses to boot at anything over 2400mhz, if I leave everything at auto, it runs fine at 3200mhz all day long.

In your 2nd picture, VDDCR SOC voltage is currently at 0.850v, raise this to 1.100v and see if you can get your ram to post at a manual set 2933mhz, set ram voltage to 1.36v
 
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Okay, i don't have exactly the same RAM, but both are G.Skill with samsung B-die;
These are my relevant settings grouped by where they are found together, i cannot guarantee this will get you any further tough:
(CAVEAT: still have issues with cold boot, when boot fails i go back into bios, then restart without changing anything to make sure the bios doesn't auto revert ram speeds) second run always boots without problems.
EDIT: also make sure you set primary timings to the ones your ram is rated for.

Memory Frequency [DDR4-3200MHz]
DRAM Voltage [1.37500]
1.8V PLL Voltage [Auto]

DRAM CAS# Latency [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Read Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Write Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [14]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [34]

Trc_SM [48]
TrrdS_SM [6]
TrrdL_SM [8]
Tfaw_SM [34]
TwtrS_SM [4]
TwtrL_SM [12]
Twr_SM [12]
Trcpage_SM [Auto]
TrdrdScl_SM [2]
TwrwrScl_SM [2]
Trfc_SM [400]
Trfc2_SM [350]
Trfc4_SM [256]
Tcwl_SM [14]
Trtp_SM [12]
Trdwr_SM [6]
Twrrd_SM [3]
TwrwrSc_SM [1]
TwrwrSd_SM [7]
TwrwrDd_SM [7]
TrdrdSc_SM [1]
TrdrdSd_SM [5]
TrdrdDd_SM [5]
Tcke_SM [1]
ProcODT_SM [96 ohm]
Cmd2T [2T]
Gear Down Mode [Disabled]
Power Down Enable [Disabled]
RttNom [RZQ/2]
RttWr [RZQ/2]
RttPark [RZQ/2]
VTTDDR Voltage [0.67980]
VPP_MEM Voltage [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
VDDP Voltage [Auto]
VDDP Standby Voltage [Auto]
1.8V Standby Voltage [Auto]

DRAM Current Capability [100%]
DRAM Power Phase Control [Extreme]
DRAM Switching Frequency [Auto]
DRAM VBoot Voltage [1.40000]

Fast Boot [Disabled]
 
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Thank you so much, Lannister in the North!

Indeed, I had to change the timings and now I can boot on more then 2133MHz, except for 3200MHz. I guess I have to put the voltage a bit higher for 3200, no?

Last question, are this voltages safe enough, won't it damage any of my components' lifespan? I'll post the images of my settings.

DRAM Voltage: 1.36V
VDDCR SOC Voltage: 1.350V (Too high?)

Again, thank you so much everyone!

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Sorry for the late reply, lost track!
Short answer in regards to safe voltages: I don't know/
I can say though in my experience raising voltage hasn't helped me that much in gaining ram speed;
Mostly it was fiddling with secondary timings that did it.
For now i'd recommend sticking with whichever speeds are stable for you right now, and possibly even trying some lower voltages, you might get away with it and in any case it can't hurt if it's stable.

Lastly I imagine AMD and ram and board partners are still at work tweaking the bioses; It is possible that eventually a mobo bios will be released that will include a stable and safe overclock profile for the memory at their rated speeds. (then again it's also possible it never will, i'd keep an eye out in any case.)

edit: spelling
 
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