Need help with first pic build!!!

dean6971 · Jul 18, 2017

I need help choosing parts for my first gaming PC. I have a budget of around £1500 and want a build with a gtx 1080 and the ryzen 5 1600 and the nzxt s340 elite but not sure about other parts. Would like my build to be black and white colour scheme and need to include a monitor into the budget as well. Thanks

Supahos · Jul 18, 2017

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.67 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.96 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£130.18 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.97 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (£501.86 @ More Computers)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£66.80 @ Alza)
Monitor: Asus - PB277Q 27.0" 2560x1440 75Hz Monitor (£296.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1489.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 02:31 BST+0100

Something like this should do nicely

Chugalug_ · Jul 18, 2017

Ditch the SSD and go for performance.

Spend a touch more and you can get a 1080 Ti and 4k.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.67 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£78.98 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£137.08 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (£653.10 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£66.80 @ Alza)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor (£324.97 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1579.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 05:50 BST+0100

Alternatively.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.67 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£78.98 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£130.18 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (£653.10 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£66.80 @ Alza)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£209.98 @ PC World Business)
Total: £1457.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 03:00 BST+0100

Lehan123456789 · Jul 18, 2017

Honestly I entirely disagree with the "go for performance and ditch the SSD" stance. Also, Ryzen does not fair very well above ~120hz, and much of your power from the 1080 ti is going to waste at 1080p.
I would suggest either this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.67 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£78.98 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£130.18 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£76.80 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (£653.10 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£66.80 @ Alza)
Monitor: Asus - VX24AH 24.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor (£206.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1531.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 03:16 BST+0100

or this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.67 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£78.98 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£137.08 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£76.80 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB D5X Video Card (£498.17 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£66.80 @ Alza)
Monitor: Asus - PB277Q 27.0" 2560x1440 75Hz Monitor (£296.60 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1473.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 03:21 BST+0100

Chugalug_ · Jul 18, 2017

That whole high frame rate Ryzen thing has no basis, you posted a video which showed nothing, what's the argument here?
You're getting a 35% performance increase and all you have to do is go a month max without an SSD (which just means longer boot times) then just grab one and migrate.
At 1080p a 1080 Ti is fine at maxed settings, won't hit the 144fps cap in most demanding titles.
It's a valid argument.

Lehan123456789 · Jul 18, 2017

Because of its generally lower single core performance, Ryzen is generally not advised. CPU power is valuable at higher refresh rates, whereas GPU power is important at higher resolutions and graphics settings generally . Also I didn't post a video. What I would personally suggest is getting both the ssd and the 1080 ti, with a 1440p or 4K monitor (I chose that particular unit because it was IPS). Also keep in mind migrating all your files and reinstalling windows is no small project.

Supahos · Jul 18, 2017

I'm not sure why in the world you'd get a 1080ti and then go with any 1080p monitor. That's like buying a formula 1 car and then putting street tires on it. Much better off upping the resolution

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Yeah, @Supahos, the problem is cost atm, it still provides more usage in terms of performance than a 75Hz 1440p monitor though.
1440p = 1.68x 1080p or something like that.

elbert · Jul 19, 2017

I picked out a good ASUS monitor and a great powersupply given the 1080ti needs 650W. this should get you a good overclock for some great gaming.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.67 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£78.98 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£137.08 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.80 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card (£653.10 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£74.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£83.97 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus - VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£230.04 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1502.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 05:42 BST+0100

seagate_surfer · Jul 19, 2017

If you do decide to steer away from the SSD for now for budget concerns, you could decrease the performance compromise by going with an SSHD like FireCuda instead of the suggested BarraCuda. SSHDs are Solid-State Hybrid Drives which have a small SSD cache on which the drive intuitively places your most frequently accessed files, and then also has a larger spinning storage capacity so you still get solid storage bang for your buck. Also, then if you did decide to add an SSD somewhere down the line, your performance would still be higher than you'd see with an SSD+HDD combo.

If you'd like to see how these drives stack up competitively, here are a couple of charts you can check out:

The first one compares startup times across several popular games across a traditional spinning 7200 RPM HDD, FireCuda, and an M.2 SSD (128GB). The white is for SSD, the orange is for FireCuda, and the gray is for the 7200 spinning HDD.

Startup Times

The next one compares the first 3 days of gaming storage utilization across several popular titles, and SYSmark ratings from various drive types and combinations. First of the grays is a 7200 RPM 1TB spinning HDD, second (lightest gray) is the FireCuda, third (darkest gray) is an SSD + 7200 RPM HDD combo, purple is SSD + FireCuda combo, and lastly blue is SSD.

First 3 Days Gaming Storage Utilization

Thank you for considering Seagate, regardless of which drive(s) you decide is right for your needs in the end!

Lehan123456789 · Jul 19, 2017

Honestly (sorry seagate) for £1500, I wouldn't even consider a build without an SSD. To me, anything above a 1050 ti should have an SSD, as the difference it makes in sheer responsiveness is massive . If the @OP can, I would suggest stretching the budget an extra 50 pounds, and getting a 250gb 850 evo!

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Ditto, except the 960 Evo for a little more offers far better performance, although I disagree with the SSD part, it can be added in later and migrated easily, it's more often than not way better value to get more performance initially, because you can't pay the difference for a CPU or GPU upgrade later, you can with an SSD, which isn't crucial anyway.

Lehan123456789 · Jul 19, 2017

It speaks volumes that when you build a system your hard drive will not suffer a performance hit when running off sata 2, while SSD's have already saturated the sata 6GB/s limit. SSD's will decrease game load times and windows startup times by huge amounts, often booting several times faster than their mechanical counterparts. Their faster response times also help increase general snappiness around the OS, and to many users this is part of what will make it seem like a premium experience, which you should be getting at this price!

Supahos · Jul 20, 2017

I agree with you I always make people who are about to get a computer from me play on two systems. One is a Pentium g2010 with 4 gb ram the other is on a (at this time) a 7700k at 4.9 with 32 GB ram and a 1080. The Pentium has a SSD, the other has a hard drive. Everyone to this day who has messed with both (granted just tooling around windows) wants the "really fast one" which of course is the pentium. This is how I get people with s $600 budget to let go of wanting an i7 to use chrome, email, and Facebook games...

Chugalug_ · Jul 20, 2017

For gaming it's a different deal, an SSD is great and all, but it's just a matter of getting 35% more GPU performance now, and dropping in an SSD later, the jump from a 1080 to a 1080 Ti can't be made after the fact unless it's an EVGA card and within 90 days, an SSD is an easy upgrade.

Supahos · Jul 20, 2017

The difference between a 1080 and 1080ti at 1080p/144hz is basically nothing

seagate_surfer · Jul 20, 2017

Of course, nobody is denying that SSD is unparalleled when it comes strictly to performance (it would be silly to), and if the OP has the budget for it, they certainly should go for that. No offense taken, we weren't trying to argue against the benefits of SSD at all, it was just mentioned in the thread by others that it may benefit the OP for budget reasons to hold off on the SSD for a later date when they may be able to better invest in it, so we wanted to provide information about other options so they can make the best educated decision on what suits their needs and still get solid performance in the meantime if they do decide to go that route.

Chugalug_ · Jul 20, 2017

The problem is generally the added cost of Hybrid drives and fitting everything into the cost here.

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