i7-7700k motherboard,cpu cooler?

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

looking to get the i7 with this mobo https://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130997&cm_re=msi_gaming_motherboard-_-13-130-997-_-Product

if there is a better mobo to get i can spend around £120 on it and around £50 on a new cooler if needed.

also have a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo on my current c is that enough to keep the i7 7700k cool or should i upgrade to a better cooler.

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

A Ryzen 1700 setup will serve you far better.
Budget?

danielthegreate · Jul 19, 2017

That motherboard is fantastic, but you might want to upgrade it to MSI Z270 GAMING PRO with USB 3.1 Gen 2. It has twice the bandwidth of the 3.1 Gen 1(or UBS 3 as well call it).

If you are overclocking, it would be a good idea to get a better cooler so you can push it to 4.8+ with a comfortable temperature. Hyper 212 can overclock too, but it won't be significant enough to be worth it, and some of the recent 7700k chips run hot. I'd at least get a Cryorig H5 or better yet R1 (or something equivalent from your favourite brand).

If you are going to run with no overclock then cooler master 212 is more than enough, slight overclock is not worth it imo. However, you are spending extra on a good z270 motherboard and the 7700k, letting it run like a 7700 on a cheapo motherboard is a waste.

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

The Ryzen 1700 matches the 7700k in gaming now above 1080p, and is far better in every other respect in regards to performance. There's very little reason to go with an i7 in the high end now, even for exclusively gaming as given games are now utilizing more and more threads, especially with new engines and DX12, its performance will only improve.

Jan_26 · Jul 19, 2017

One is better with one thing, other is better with other, in some they are really equal. You should validate against your use cases (as in specific cases the difference in favor for one or other can be bigger than trivial), quite wide comparison can be found here: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1826?vs=1851

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

I feel like you're trolling at this stage.

Look at the 4k benchmarks, practically identical no?
There's very little reason at all to go with the 7700k, costs more, doesn't come with a cooler, boards are pricier and its relevance lifespan is shorter than the 1700 due to the lower thread count.

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Should I get the 1700x for £60 more or just save the money can the 1700 be oc?

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Nah, get the 1700 and OC, the 1700X and 1800X are a waste of money.

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

OK thanks could u give me a build going to reuse my ram,GPU,hard drives for now need an ssd,mobo,PSU,case,cpu cooler I have a cooler master 212 I could reuse also or is the stock amd wraith cooler enough to oc it.

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

You're asking for a lot here, you can't reuse your RAM, you need DDR4.
Give me a budget, and your full current specs.
You can reuse the 212 Evo, but you need to get an AM4 bracket from coolermaster which you can order from their site.
Do this ASAP so you can be ready to build.

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Okay so I need everything minus cooler if I order the bracket,GPU going to keep my r9 280x until I find a deal I like on a new gpu maybe a 1070 in the future also I can re use my HHD? I'm going to add an ssd anyway as for a budget ide like to keep it between £600-800 the 1700 is £200 on new egg ATM I think that's a good deal?

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Just list your full specs that you have now.
I'll solve the rest.
Yes you can reuse your HDD, but you need a new windows license for a new motherboard.
Be sure to account for this cost in your budget.

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

i got an r9 280x intel i5 4460 8gb g.skill ram gigabyte z97p-d3 motherboard 2tb hd

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Power supply?

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Corsair 550 Watt

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

What model, and if it's a CXM, what color is the label? Green or black?

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

cxm and green

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

So between 600 and 800 you said right?
What frequency and model is the RAM you have?
Last question.

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Gonna assume Ripjaws X for now.
Grab the 1070 later if you want, and get a 960 Evo 250GB now.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£257.84 @ BT Shop)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£44.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.68 @ Kustom PCs)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card (£389.99 @ Novatech)
Total: £751.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 10:40 BST+0100

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

http://imgur.com/a/pBXga not sure on ram speed
also wanted to swap to ryzen is it worth it or just upgrade what i have now.

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Stick with the i7, still extremely good, and a Ryzen setup would cost too much.
That's not helpful...
Lol.
What speed is the kit rated at? You just posted 'current' speed at the time of taking that screenshot.
What stick is it? Ripjaws X? Generic?

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

ripjaw x and i think it's 1600

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Ah okay, perfect then.

Get what I posted, save for the GPU and get a 960 Evo 250GB I reckon, the 11 series is gonna drop in a few months, stick with your current GPU.

xnzm · Jul 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

okay thanks for the help however i like the idea of the ryzen build now how does this look it works out cheaper as the 1700 is 200 atm and the other parts can be found slightly cheaper also only thing that is over priced i think is the case any suggestions/. i'm not really in a hurry to upgrade my gpu and copys of widows are cheap online if i cant reactive my current key also i can just add another 8 gb ram in the future aswell.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£275.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£44.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£78.98 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£68.88 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.97 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (£91.55 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£66.80 @ Alza)
Total: £712.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 12:24 BST+0100

total is closer to 600 i would use your build however the i7-4790k seems expensive and it's old?

Chugalug_ · Jul 19, 2017

Well you see, there's liking hte look of Ryzen, and whether its suitable.
The 7700k is ever so slightly better in gaming over the Ryzen 1700 and due to the higher clock speeds will run better in quite a lot of games that don't have high thread utilization.
You can waste your money on that, but you'd be spending $625 or so on an upgrade that only needs $400 to perform the same.
There's only a 5-10% increase from a 4790k to a 7700k clock for clock.
Its still very good, and at that price it's cheap, not expensive at all.
The Enthoo Pro is also a silly case, not a good choice at all unless you need 8 HDDs.

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