ryzen 7 1700 vs intel 7700k

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I am planning to get a gtx 1080ti with either the 7700k or the r7 1700.
ik the 7700k is much better for 1080p gaming at 144hz,but i already bought a benq xl2411z monitor before 1 to 1 and a half months.

IM TIRED PLS HELP ME

MY REAL QUESTION IS WHEN ARE GAMES GONNA USE MORE CORES OR THREADS OR WHATEVER RYZEN HAS NOW??????????
 
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The 7700k will get better fps than the r7 1700 at 1080p. There are many reviews to support this information. You can read the review on this site.

Steam Hardware Survey for June shows 41% using dual core and 51% using 4 core processors. 92% of CPUs use 4 cores or less. Game developers do not develop games that only 8% of the population can play. The smaller the potential market, the smaller the revenue. They want to develop games that a lot of people can play. This is why many of the massive online games have very conservative PC specification requirements. So by the time that 8 or 6 cores becomes the majority of CPUs, the 1700 will be a dinosaur in CPU years and will require an upgrade to play AAA games.

With that being said...
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Who knows fact is though ryzen at 3.8/3.9ghz is easily capable of 100fps+.

I'd you do go ryzen & you're not majorly streaming or video editing then just go with the 1600 & save yourself a ton of money.

Also you don't need a 1080ti @1080p at all , a 1080 would be more sensible.
 
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There are quite a few other threads on the topic already. You should be able to get a good idea of the strengths and weaknesses of each by reading some of these threads:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/forum-28.html?refine=1700+7700k

Regarding when games will use more cores and threads, many are still not using more than 2-4. It's only high-budget titles from companies like EA, which are running on big-name game engines (e.g. Frostbite) that are even making use of 4-8. Given that we had 8-thread consumer CPUs back in 2008, and it's only really in 2017 that we're seeing all of those threads used in (some) games, you can probably expect it to be a while. Better to go with a Ryzen 1600 and put that money toward other components.
 
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There's no right answer for you question.
But it's not 'much better', it's just better. The 1700 don't fall that much in 1080p... But i wonder why you got a 1080p monitor with a 1080Ti...
Nevertheless, you will be easily able to max-out anything at the res. with any of those CPU. Don't fret about it.

But answering... It all depends on the game devs.
But tendencies shows that with the better use of DX12 those extra cores will become more and more used, we just have to wait, it could be months.

Get Ryzen. It's cheaper and will provide a much better long term performance.
 
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but i want 144+ fps at ultra details
 
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A 7700K will deliver 144+ fps in more of today's games than a Ryzen 1700.
 
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ryzen 1600? doesnt that bottneck the gtx 1080ti?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL7VKvRHXuM&t=50s
 
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I play games mostly and may start recording and editing stuff in the future for a yt channel.
soooo..???
 
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games use cores, not threads and only usually use upto 4 cores, very few recent games are coded to use all cores aval.
games like clock speed hence intel seems to still push with half the core count of ryzen (among other small differences).

youre looking at least 2+ years for game development.
now ryzen is a serious contender, games companies will start the shift. But who knows how much money intel will pay game companies to cap core use to 4? ..
 
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in more?
so ryzen would also do so?
 
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The 7700k will get better fps than the r7 1700 at 1080p. There are many reviews to support this information. You can read the review on this site.

Steam Hardware Survey for June shows 41% using dual core and 51% using 4 core processors. 92% of CPUs use 4 cores or less. Game developers do not develop games that only 8% of the population can play. The smaller the potential market, the smaller the revenue. They want to develop games that a lot of people can play. This is why many of the massive online games have very conservative PC specification requirements. So by the time that 8 or 6 cores becomes the majority of CPUs, the 1700 will be a dinosaur in CPU years and will require an upgrade to play AAA games.

With that being said, if you do anything other than gaming, then the Ryzen chips are definitely the way to go. They are very good chips and have an incredible price vs performance ratio. But if you want to quintessential gaming chip (all be it expensive) available right now, then the i7 7700k is the chip to buy.

If I were building a gaming PC today and money mattered at all, I would go with the Ryzen 1600 and use the money I save to add on to a better monitor to pair with my 1080ti. Using a 1080p monitor with a 1080ti is like driving a race car in a school zone all day.
 
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Game developers want the largest possible audience for their games.
Therefore, they will not willingly create a game that REQUIRES a large number of threads.
Currently, so far as I know 4 threads is the max requirement.
And in that vein, it seems that I7-7700K will game better than 12 thread i7-7800X
https://www.techspot.com/review/1445-core-i7-7800x-vs-7700k/
The reason is that single thread performance is what counts in games if you are using high end graphics like the GTX1080ti.
 
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