hardwiring my friends house, could use suggestions and have a couple questions

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Hello there, i am currently in the process of gathering materials to help my friend hard wire a couple of rooms in his house with cat6(his choice), running everything back to a leviton structured media enclosure. i have been looking around at patch panels that would possibly be able to fit in them but they are all surprisingly spendy, at least the ones built for the enclosure are, does anyone here have one of these enclosures, if so what did you use or recommend for a patch panel? i am currently looking at this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005Y6H5TO/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=IHUMSJBK0LCOR&colid=1QWE5GL3KIWII

aside from that i was asked by my friend if it would be possible to have the wireless router in a separate room entirely with this kind of setup, as in running a cable from the switch through the walls to the wireless router. i told him i didn't know and my research on that has only left me confused and so i figured i'd ask this community which seems to know everything, is this something that can be done? the router btw is a nighthawk router and the switch is a simple 8 port netgear unmanaged one. thanks in advance.
 
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i've suggested that to him before but he has decided to go the wiring route anyways so all i can do is try to help him with it. thanks for the suggestion though
 
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this is an odd take away but what do you mean by a booster? and yeah, i think I've heard that commscope makes quality things but i don't know either.
 
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A "booster" ?
Do tell...what exactly do you mean?
 
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Basically...Router, switch, patch panel, wires to wherever, switches and Access Points at the room locations.

1. How many rooms will you be wiring?
2. How are you running this? Inside the walls?
3. Not Cat6....either Cat5e or Cat6a.
4. How large a house?
5. How many devices will be connected?
6. What is the general bandwidth coming into the house?

(other people will be along to ask other questions)
 
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to answer your questions in order
1. we will be wiring at least 3 rooms with 2 of them getting 3 cable runs and the last getting 2
2. we will be running down into the crawlspace under the house then up behind walls to keystones
3. i'm not sure what you are meaning here but the cable he is looking at just says cat6
4. a small manufactured home
5. at least 5 or 6, including a gaming desktop and multiple game consles, many smaller devices will use the wifi
6. 150Mb/s

and in response to the connection order, i take it that what he was asking is generally not doable?
 
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He's already bought the cable?
Is it terminated, or just bare wire? I strongly recommend you buy a basic cable tester. Maybe $10 from Amazon.
Terminating cable looks really, really easy...but it does take practice.

For a small manufactured home, you can probably get away with a single WiFi source. Probably even just the existing router, depending on where it is located.
If at all possible, have that router at the center of the house.
 
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he hasn't bought the cable yet but it is just a bulk 500' box from monoprice and its listed as cat 6(specifically it's this https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10234&cs_id=1023401&p_id=13674&seq=1&format=2). i've already put a cable tester on the list as neither of us have ever done something like this so it just made sense. at the moment that is exactly what he has but as more and more devices start to become wireless it's putting a strain on his router so he started this project as a way to take the heavy things off, such as the media center and the desktops and then recruited me, his only techy-ish friend to help. i've already put forward thigs like powerline adapters and extenders but he's stubborn and is sticking to this project : )
 
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Everything will still flow through the central router.

In a small house, a single WiFi source (properly located) is better, far less hassle, and the same performance.
The more devices that are wired the better.

The router has 4 LAN ports, so obviously you need more. This is where the switch comes in.
How the signal gets from the switch to the room locations is where your wiring comes in.

Again...if at all possible, have the existing router located centrally in the house.
From that, a single ethernet cable to the switch. 8 or 16 port.
From the switch ports, to the rooms. Either with the patch panel, or a terminated wire from the switch. The patch panel is NOT required. The switch IS required. That is what actually creates more actual LAN connection opportunities.



 
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that makes a lot of sense, i think he was just thinking of aesthetics when he had asked me about the router placement anyways but at least now i know how to answer him. the media enclosure would be as close to the center of the house as he can get anyways so that will help with the router placement at least. and since you seem to be very knowledgeable in this area, any recommendations on the patch panel to go into the media enclosure or is the one that i posted to good enough?
 
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I see nothing specifically wrong with that panel. I can't see the back of it though, and its only 8 ports for the same price as many 16 or 24 port panels.
A patch panel doesn't actually do a whole lot. It is really just a wire connector, in between the switch, and the wires leading to the rooms.

The wires from the rooms get connected to the back, and terminated wires from the switch get connected to the front.
Or, the other way around.

Other panels here:
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=patch+panel
 
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the connections for the one i posted are all in the front, nothing in the back. most of the comparable price patch panels i have been finding are for a rack-mount system but this is going into a cabinet in the wall so i can't go for those, it also has a height clearance of only 4.2 inches so we are again limited on what panels to get which is what led to the selection i made which is one of the cheaper options meant specifically for structured media enclosures, but if you think it will work then awesome. i've also looked at these types https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-12-Port-Vertical-Bracket/dp/B00UVQI8B6/ref=pd_sbs_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00UVQI8B6&pd_rd_r=787WPQD1T5693ZWA48VM&pd_rd_w=bstQl&pd_rd_wg=3ibWt&psc=1&refRID=787WPQD1T5693ZWA48VM but they are more meant for wall mounting and look like they would be too thick with the patch cables connected
 
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alright, awesome. and sorry for the wall of text back at you, i just have done alot of research into what will fit but have no clue how to tell quality without ever having used one : )
 
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Well, I've never used that one either, but I see little reason why it wouldn't work.
Conceptually, a patch panel is simple wiring. It has no brain to worry about.
 
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sorry, i meant i've never used any sort of patch panel or keystone before and that's why i can't tell quality, so i am going to defer to your experience on this one, thanks for the help : )
 
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