Intel i7 8700K or Ryzen 5 1600X? & Coffee Lake Processors

[valeman2012]

http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-core-i7-8700k-6-core-cpu-specifications-details-leak/

Want to buy a NEW CPU with 6 Core / 12 threads
Ryzen 5 1600X or Intel i7 8700K
Multi Task work

and others Coffee Lake Processors

 

[MnMWizard]

I assume you mean the i7 8700x? Well the i7 will be a tad better performance, but you have to decide if the extra $150 is worth the small gain in performance (IMO it is not, I'd actually say get the r7 1700 since it is both cheaper and has more cores/threads than the i7.)

 

[mdd1963]

I vote we actually wait for the following:

true 8700K specs, to include which socket it will be on
gaming benchmarks (usually out with delivery)

I'd be shocked to see a 3.6 Ghz 6 core to even keep up with the 7700K in most games, frankly, but, we will see....but, perhaps not until Feb 2018....

 

[cryoburner]

There's no telling what the 8700k will cost at this point. It will likely have faster per-core performance than a 1600, but if it costs twice as much, the 1600 may still be the better deal. At the very least, it will almost certainly cost significantly more than the quad-core 7700k, and that's currently a $340+ CPU. Meanwhile, a 1600X is around $230, or a 1600, which can overclock to similar levels, can be found for around $210. It sounds like there will be 6-core i5s as well, but those will lack hyperthreading, only having 6 threads.

Really, a lot of it comes down to what the CPU is being used for. If it's just for general desktop multitasking use, having 12 threads might not even be necessary. If it's for gaming, the higher per-core performance of the Intel chip might be a little better. For heavily multithreaded use, such as for video encoding, an 8 core, 16 thread Ryzen 1700 will almost certainly cost less than an 8700k. It would be hard to make any sort of real recommendation until Intel's 6-core i7s and i5s are out, and have been priced and benchmarked though.

 

[valeman2012]

They said they releasing this year,

But they keep going pushing it back and returning to normal date. Let see what happens

Surprising see Intel i7 8700K with such Clock Speed ina 6 Core / 12 threads.

 

[lrrelevant]

Wouldn't be surprised if Coffee lake overclocked to 4.5-4.8 with ease. After all it's a refined version of Kaby lake, so it will obviously trump any 6 core part from AMD performance wise. Price wise, it'll most likely cost the same as the 7700K and 7600K, as it's replacing those for mainstream platform cpu's, not adding new ones to the stack.

 

[mdd1963]

Perhaps Intel can do a Ryzen-like 'paper-launch' on 30 December, and, ship 8700K CPUs on 1 Feb?

 

[goldstone77]

http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-core-i7-8700k-6-core-cpu-specifications-details-leak/

A friend want to buy a NEW CPU with 6 Core / 12 threads
Ryzen 5 1600X or Intel i7 8700K
Multi Task work

Multi tasking and work? What types of work, because Ryzen offer great price to performance when it comes to multitasking. Streaming and rendering have been the big marketing points, which it does extremely well. Also, the 1700 is an 8 core for under $300.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kPzK8/amd-ryzen-7-1700-30ghz-8-core-processor-yd1700bbaebox

 

[valeman2012]

Wouldn't be surprised if Coffee lake overclocked to 4.5-4.8 with ease. After all it's a refined version of Kaby lake, so it will obviously trump any 6 core part from AMD performance wise. Price wise, it'll most likely cost the same as the 7700K and 7600K, as it's replacing those for mainstream platform cpu's, not adding new ones to the stack.

The Intel Coffee Lake responding to AMD Ryzen 1600X (6 Core / 12 Threads)
You think Intel i7 8700K going beat their Ryzen 1600X on everything?

 

[goldstone77]

So far from "leaked rumors" the 8700K has a TDP of 80 watts, and running at 3.8GHz. We won't know specifics until we get some performance numbers.

Edit: Actually, we have more leaked rumors I just found and updated.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1581001/intel-future-chips-news-rumours-reviews/page-40.html#19973723

 

[sizzling]

The leaks I have seen have been engineering samples which usually have a lower clock speed than the production cpu. We won't what speed it runs at until Intel announce it.

 

[cryoburner]

So far from "leaked rumors" the 8700K has a TDP of 80 watts, and running at 3.8GHz.

The info you posted listed a 95 watt TDP and a 3.7GHz base clock (with a 6-core boost to 4.0GHz). The 80 watts was for a 3.5GHz chip that was suspected to be an engineering sample, and not something likely planned for release.

And again, I have some doubts that Intel will be launching the 8700K with two more cores for the same price as the 7700K. It doesn't seem like Intel to suddenly provide 50% more cores and threads without pairing that with a price increase. It could happen though, since their existing chips have a large markup on them as it is.

Even if the 8700k were $350 though, that's still fairly expensive for a CPU, and is more than most people are willing to pay for a processor. The unlocked Ryzen 1600 may be under $200 by the time coffee lake launches, meaning the i7 would still be priced around 75% higher. The 8-core Ryzen 1700 is already under $300, and considering that the lower-end Ryzens are pretty much the same processor as the 8-core models with some parts disabled, AMD certainly still has plenty of room to keep their prices competitive.

 

[mdd1963]

Wouldn't be surprised if Coffee lake overclocked to 4.5-4.8 with ease. .

6 cores at constant 4.4-4.5 GHz would be nice, even...; hopefully that might surpass 7700K's gaming benchmarks.

 

[valeman2012]

It should be better as they claims to have up to 30% performance over Kaby lake

 

[mdd1963]

30% better in..."PCMark"?

Let's just hope it is better than Skylake vs. Kaby Lake, the infamous ludicrous claiming of 15% improvement from a 100-200 MHz clock speed increase...

 

[mdd1963]

3dMark, Firestrike, Cinebench, Handbrake...

Just give me Battlefield 1 results!

 

[valeman2012]

The 30% better be everything lolz

I better not see 9% improvement over i7 - 2600K when it should be 100% better than i7 2600K

 

[goldstone77]

The 30% better be everything lolz

I better not see 9% improvement over i7 - 2600K when it should be 100% better than i7 2600K

The process isn't shrinking don't expect to see huge gains! I would refer to Skylake-X in performance.

"For now, all we know is that Intel’s Coffee Lake family of desktop processors are expected to launch sometime in the second half of 2017, and that it's built on a third-gen 14nm (14nm++) process. "
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-coffee-lake-benchmark-leak,35070.html

 

[valeman2012]

I thinks it going remain LGA 1151 until Cannon Lake

But expected better than 15% perf boost over Kaby Lake on the lowest end Desktop CPU to the Highest Intel i7 8700K

 

[goldstone77]

I thinks it going remain LGA 1151 until Cannon Lake

But expected better than 15% perf boost over Kaby Lake on the lowest end Desktop CPU to the Highest Intel i7 8700K

1151 socket, 3rd times a charm? No increase in performance on that socket for the last 2 generation. The bonus is your get 6 cores, but how much are they going to make you pay for those 6 cores? Don't expect anything special except with 2 additional cores will gain.

 

[mdd1963]

It *d-mn* sure better result in an increase in gaming performance, however....!

Nothing would suck more than to see a 5% decrease in gaming results, a very real possibility with more cores running at 300-400 MHz slower speeds...

 

[valeman2012]

It *d-mn* sure better result in an increase in gaming performance, however....!

Nothing would suck more than to see a 5% decrease in gaming results, a very real possibility with more cores running at 300-400 MHz slower speeds...

If they want to complete against Ryzen 1600X area, they should match the price, not increase it.

Yes it going be a completion that easily beaten by Inte li7 8700K

 

[mdd1963]

Wouldn't be surprised if Coffee lake overclocked to 4.5-4.8 with ease. After all it's a refined version of Kaby lake, so it will obviously trump any 6 core part from AMD performance wise. Price wise, it'll most likely cost the same as the 7700K and 7600K, as it's replacing those for mainstream platform cpu's, not adding new ones to the stack.

The Intel Coffee Lake responding to AMD Ryzen 1600X (6 Core / 12 Threads)
You think Intel i7 8700K going beat their Ryzen 1600X on everything?

In all fairness, Intel has had 6 core HEDT processors out since...what year? A quick mastery of Google-fu shows the 980X released in.... 2010....

 

[valeman2012]

Wouldn't be surprised if Coffee lake overclocked to 4.5-4.8 with ease. After all it's a refined version of Kaby lake, so it will obviously trump any 6 core part from AMD performance wise. Price wise, it'll most likely cost the same as the 7700K and 7600K, as it's replacing those for mainstream platform cpu's, not adding new ones to the stack.

The Intel Coffee Lake responding to AMD Ryzen 1600X (6 Core / 12 Threads)
You think Intel i7 8700K going beat their Ryzen 1600X on everything?

In all fairness, Intel has had 6 core HEDT processors out since...what year? A quick mastery of Google-fu shows the 980X released in.... 2010....

Those Extreme CPU cost more due to expanded features.

I believe the Intel i5 8th CPU will cost less than a Intel i7 7800X.

This is AMD RYZEN 5 1600X Graph (Ryzen 5 1600X vs Intel i5 7600K...)

 

[MnMWizard]

While my vote goes for the 1600(x), that graph is made by AMD so...