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Hi guys I've heard rumours that coffee lake is coming out in the next few months and I'm thinking of getting it for my PC build. For the i7 8700k, will it's price be the same as the i7 7700k? Thank in advance.
 
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I agree the i7 7000 series users will likely be good for awhile. Devs won't abandon them overnight. I just don't think they will get the roll i7 4C/8T+ gulftown/sandybridge users are seeing. I have chips from the top and bottom of the stack of the archs I mentioned still doing high end gaming well in 2017 seven+ years later in some cases. An i7 970 upgraded from an i7 920 for more cores to extend the x58 rig's longevity when moved I on to sandybridge (it worked well BTW just ask my wife as it is her gaming rig now with 2 GTX 980s and can keep going another 2+ years if I had to guess). My rig is i7 3930K rig listed in my signature and should be good for another 3-4+ years. IMHO 4C/8T is going to become the new entry level chip at least...
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Think it would be nice to see if the 8700K can keep with the 7700K in gaming, much less worry if it might be faster in gaming; rumors of moderate 3.7 GHz base clocks would not lead me to immediately think so, barring some quick gaming software and/or Windows 10 optimizations being implemented to allow 6 cores/12 threads at 500 MHz lower clock speeds to suddenly excel better than what is current with the 7700k....
 
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I believe we may see some losses in some games and gains in others due to the lower clock speed but increased core count. I could be wrong if coffee lake ends up having a better IPC then kaby/skylake. However with so many games going to 8+ thread and in some cases 16+...going with 6C/12T CPUs was the smart move. We already see a deluge of i5 users complaining about CPU bottlenecks and as of recent I have started to see the rare i7 user complaining of the same. Clock speed will always be super important but core/thread count is starting to be just as crucial in gaming.
 
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Higher core counts are indeed already greatly appreciated in workloads that can use it...Cinebench, encoding, Handbrake, the list goes on...

But from a gaming perspective, 7700K users will likely be left standing pat a generation or two at least, until something can surpass it. (currently, the 7800-7900 cannot) It will be an interesting next 6-24 months...

I am fully aware the gamer/ streamers are getting great performance on R5-1600/R7-1700...

 
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I agree the i7 7000 series users will likely be good for awhile. Devs won't abandon them overnight. I just don't think they will get the roll i7 4C/8T+ gulftown/sandybridge users are seeing. I have chips from the top and bottom of the stack of the archs I mentioned still doing high end gaming well in 2017 seven+ years later in some cases. An i7 970 upgraded from an i7 920 for more cores to extend the x58 rig's longevity when moved I on to sandybridge (it worked well BTW just ask my wife as it is her gaming rig now with 2 GTX 980s and can keep going another 2+ years if I had to guess). My rig is i7 3930K rig listed in my signature and should be good for another 3-4+ years. IMHO 4C/8T is going to become the new entry level chip at least for the next few years. Where 6C/6T (intel) 6C/12T(amd) chips will be the mainstream and the high end mainstream will be 6C/12T (intel) 8C/16T(amd). Point being Devs usually aim or including entry level gaming CPUs for their games and the OP will benefit from this.

Question is how much will he have to sacrifice if he went with a 4C/8T chip in image quality in 3 or 4 years time compared to higher core count chips out now? Something to consider when building a new rig in this day and age. The past tells us CPUs tend last a really long time for gaming and will likely hold to be true I just don't think it will be quite as long as a number of the last gens. Much like dual cores followed by quad cores CPUs not long after (2005 to 2006) did a similar thing to single core systems in gaming back in the day. It is the PC version of next gen when equated to the console version of next gen. Pc users upgrade so much and the cycle of advancement are so fast it makes it easy to miss the big changes when they come and easy to see big changes on the horizon when in truth they are incremental at best. Which one is this? The core war. It is a curious time to watch PC gaming closely.
 
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