Air or Liquid Cooler?

James Jesus · Jul 23, 2017

CPU: Intel I7-7700k
Motherboard: MSI - Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Video Card: GeForce GTX 1080 FTW Gaming ACX 3.0
Case: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition
Power Supply: Seasonic M12II-620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX

R_1 · Jul 23, 2017

air
less complex, more user friendly, and just as effective most of the time. failure will limit damage to one component. leakage could damage more than just CPU

jankerson · Jul 23, 2017

Air defiantly.

The case has a max cooler height of 160mm so you may be limited somewhat.

geofelt · Jul 23, 2017

Your case is not a good one for airflow.
Only one 120mm front intake fan.
Adding a bottom intake fan would help, but then, there is no way to filter your air intake to keep your parts clean.
I would look for a case with two front 120mm intakes or better.
All of the above does not matter if you already own the case.
But, the fan capability will have a direct impact on how you do air or liquid cooling.
There is some merit in installing a 240mm radiator on top, taking in air,

Really though, I see a nice noctua NH-U14s as a perfectly adequate cooler.
It will be cheaper, quieter, and cool equally well.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

James Jesus · Jul 23, 2017

geofelt :

Your case is not a good one for airflow.
Only one 120mm front intake fan.
Adding a bottom intake fan would help, but then, there is no way to filter your air intake to keep your parts clean.
I would look for a case with two front 120mm intakes or better.
All of the above does not matter if you already own the case.
But, the fan capability will have a direct impact on how you do air or liquid cooling.
There is some merit in installing a 240mm radiator on top, taking in air,

Really though, I see a nice noctua NH-U14s as a perfectly adequate cooler.
It will be cheaper, quieter, and cool equally well.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

Thank you, so, i go Noctua - NH-U14S.

I've never done OC and I think it does not matter if you have a good PC, but I bought a motherboard that I can do OC just in case, I do not want to shorten the life of my PC.

EDIT: Is compatible the Noctua - NH-U14S cooler with my case? Say: Unable to verify

geofelt · Jul 23, 2017

Noctua NH-U14s is 165mm high, not for you if the case limit is 160mm.
NH-D15s is outstanding at 160mm
A less expensive but good option is the NH-U12s at 158mm.

The i7-7700K runs stock at 4.2 with a higher turbo.
You hardly need to do anything to it.

But, overclocking is easy, amounting to raising the stock multiplier from 42 to a higher number.
The key to safety is to keep the vcore voltage under control at 1.4v.
It is the vcore that drives up temperatures.

How high you can oc will be determined by your luck in getting a good chip.
As of 6/9/17
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane 1.4v Vcore.

I7-7700K
4.9 83%
5.0 62%
5.1 29%
5.2 6%

Marko_V · Jul 23, 2017

I can recommend Scythe Mugen 4. Have it on my FX-6300 overclocked on 4.2GHz inside Antec gx500 with 3 exhaust and one intake 120mm fan. On ambient temperature of 28 degrees cpu never goes of 55 celsius in any game. Its 156mm high.

biglizard · Jul 23, 2017

geofelt :

Your case is not a good one for airflow.
Only one 120mm front intake fan.
Adding a bottom intake fan would help, but then, there is no way to filter your air intake to keep your parts clean.
I would look for a case with two front 120mm intakes or better.
All of the above does not matter if you already own the case.
But, the fan capability will have a direct impact on how you do air or liquid cooling.
There is some merit in installing a 240mm radiator on top, taking in air,

Really though, I see a nice noctua NH-U14s as a perfectly adequate cooler.
It will be cheaper, quieter, and cool equally well.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

I vote for Rant to be sticked.

jankerson · Jul 23, 2017

biglizard :

geofelt :

Your case is not a good one for airflow.
Only one 120mm front intake fan.
Adding a bottom intake fan would help, but then, there is no way to filter your air intake to keep your parts clean.
I would look for a case with two front 120mm intakes or better.
All of the above does not matter if you already own the case.
But, the fan capability will have a direct impact on how you do air or liquid cooling.
There is some merit in installing a 240mm radiator on top, taking in air,

Really though, I see a nice noctua NH-U14s as a perfectly adequate cooler.
It will be cheaper, quieter, and cool equally well.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

I vote for Rant to be sticked.

I second that on the rant for sure.

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