Want to build a gaming pc

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 23, 2017

I just wanted to ask about the build I created and if it could be better (I want to keep the price around the same so it doesn't have to be lower or higher). The build: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6Ystf8

Somebody told me that this graphics card is better: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 (Is it? Also I'm new to graphics cards so could somebody explain the main things to look out for in them, thanks in advance),

Freddysquiggles · Jul 23, 2017

I can tell you that you don't really need an unlocked i7 processor for gaming. In fact a last gen i5 6600k will achieve nearly equal results when it comes to fps. You should take the money that you saved from your processor to buy and ssd as your main boot drive, not only does it drastically increase your system speed in general, you will also notice far faster load times when playing games. Unless, you play extremely cpu intensive games (i.e cities skyline, total war, hitman) I wouldn't recommend an i7. An ssd can decrease the startup time of your computer tenfold, not to mention it can be safer, definitely invest in that.

Agathor · Jul 23, 2017

Western digital caviar blue 1tb drives are like £20 cheaper and they are fantastic. Also personally I would take an i7 over an i5 with an ssd, but that's because I value raw gaming performance above all else and more games are utilising more threads.
Also all gtx 1070 cards will be fairly similar in performance so just pick a well priced one that looks nice. I like evga because they have great customer service if something goes wrong.

Lucky_SLS · Jul 24, 2017

A gtx 1080 build for around the same price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£298.98 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 51.2 CFM CPU Cooler (£42.95 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 GAMING M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£124.20 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Corsair - Force LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£71.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB iChill X3 Video Card (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.46 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1285.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-24 04:55 BST+0100

U can size down to that sshd firecuda if you want to save some cash, but a regular ssd is what I prefer.

Freddysquiggles · Jul 24, 2017

Agathor :

Sorry but an i7 is not worth the extra £80 for 2 to 3 frames at best. I also disagree with the fact the all gtx 1070 cards are fairly similar in performance. Due to Nvidia GPU boost 3, a better cooled card will achieve higher clocks and throttle less. It is much more worth while to invest that £80 for a better graphics card, than to get an i7. Strictly for gaming of course.

Lucky_SLS · Jul 24, 2017

For a pure gaming perspective, 7700k is the best and ideal for a 144hz monitor and high end cards like 1070 & 1080. I will take a ryzen 1600 on a b350 anyday over the 7600k. If u r gonna play in a TV or 60hz screen, the ryzen will give you 60fps be it any title now.

Also, the fps gains from the 7600k to 7700k is not 2 to 3, its more like 15 and above in most cases.

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 24, 2017

Lucky_SLS :

A gtx 1080 build for around the same price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£298.98 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 51.2 CFM CPU Cooler (£42.95 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270 GAMING M3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£124.20 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Corsair - Force LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£71.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB iChill X3 Video Card (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.46 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1285.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-24 04:55 BST+0100

U can size down to that sshd firecuda if you want to save some cash, but a regular ssd is what I prefer.

I like that list but is the gtx 1080 worth it over the gtx 1070 for like £100 more? (Mostly going to be using it for games like the witcher 3)

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 24, 2017

Freddysquiggles :

I'm going to wait until January to buy all of the components and build the computer but I think I can manage a 240 gigabyte SSD over a 1 terabyte hard drive. (I never use much space on my computers)

madmatt30 · Jul 24, 2017

yes the 1080 is worth it mate.

ryzen 1600,1080,ssd & a secondary platter drive for £1200

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.94 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard (£108.44 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£131.65 @ Novatech)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£88.87 @ More Computers)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Silverstone - Redline RL05 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£83.97 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Logitech - G213 PRODIGY Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse
Total: £1201.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-24 08:32 BST+0100

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 24, 2017

I think I would prefer the part list Lucky_SLS suggested because it's only like £80 more than what I had in mind but I can afford it and don't really mind about spending a bit more for slightly more power.

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 24, 2017

I added the monitor to the part list if that changes anything: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/FlamingSparrowhawk/saved/qD87P6

madmatt30 · Jul 24, 2017

Im going to push you to the ryzen build again mate with a 27 inch 1440p 75htz screen

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£188.94 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard (£108.44 @ BT Shop)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£126.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£88.97 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case (£56.66 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.95 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus - PB277Q 27.0" 2560x1440 75Hz Monitor (£301.51 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Logitech - G213 PRODIGY Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse
Total: £1486.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-24 09:31 BST+0100

much better balanced

pairing a 7700k & a 1080 with a 1080p 60htz screen is ultimately pointless, the monitor is a glaring weak point there.

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 24, 2017

Thanks for all the replies. I'm going to think about which build I want, either with the Ryzen 5 1600 or the i7 7700k but I'll have to go and look at some 27" screens irl to be able to judge whether the screen is too big for me.

Lucky_SLS · Jul 24, 2017

if its a 60hz or 75hz, the ryzen 1600 is enough. if its a 144hz, u need a 7700k. so it depends on ur monitor now. what i am saying abt the 144hz and what matt said on the 60hz r the same.

madmatt30 · Jul 24, 2017

^ yup agreed.

If you end up set on a 24 inch 1080p screen them honestly stick with the ryzen & a 1070.

The i7 & a 1080 are just plain wasteful value wise at that monitor spec.

There are a lot of very good 24 inch 1080p 75htz screens out there & ryzen + gtx 1070 will run consistent 75fps at ultra settings

You could however argue that with the current price of 1070s a 1080 is worth the extra on a future proofing aspect alone even at 1080p.

madmatt30 · Jul 24, 2017

AOC G2460VQ6 61 cm (24") Monitor (VGA, HDMI, DisplayPort, 1920 x 1080, 75 Hz, 1ms response time) Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B015510R4M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PnGDzbPWVPBRS

That's a good 75htz gaming screen there for £130

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 24, 2017

I think it's more likely that I'll end up going with the Ryzen then. Thanks for all the help

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 24, 2017

madmatt30 :

I looked at what a 27" screen would be like and I think I'm fine with a 24"/23" so I'll use the Ryzen. The part lists with the Ryzen 5 that you suggested have a few different parts. Which part list would be better to use for the monitor you suggested?

madmatt30 · Jul 24, 2017

In the interest on saving on delivery charges & sticking to minimal suppliers

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£189.19 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£99.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£126.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£88.97 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.95 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case (£58.52 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£75.95 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: AOC - G2460VQ6 24.0" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor (£129.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1310.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-24 16:46 BST+0100

You could remove the seperate GPU order from overclockers by going for the g1 from ebuyer.

Overclockers charge £10 delivery so virtually the same price.

http://www.ebuyer.com/749498-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-g1-gaming-oc-8gb-gddr5x-dual-link-dvi-d-gv-n1080g1-gaming-8gd

Lucky_SLS · Jul 24, 2017

there is a inno 3d with a 1.76 clock speed. that a helluva oc and its priced at 500 quid.

madmatt30 · Jul 24, 2017

There is but its out of stock :-/

FlamingSparrowhawk · Jul 24, 2017

Thank you very much for all of your help

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