Will Intel Coffee Lake CPUs support todays LGA 1151 motherboards?

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Coffee lake will be out in the coming months, not 2018. Cannon lake is 2018 and 10nm issues were resolved not too long ago. They are in full production and expecting a 1h 2018 release.

I don't get why ddr5 or pcie 4 were even mentioned. When official specs are released, there's development time for manufacturers to get it implemented which is at least a year. Just look at release dates of previous specs vs when actual hardware came out with them. With cannon already in production, ice lake would be the soonest which we know for sure is a new socket.
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There has been no definite answer from Intel yet. People have speculated it will be compatible but Intel has not said yet. Personally, I'm doubtful.

If you look at past overclocking mobos:
Z97, Z87 : compatible
Z77, Z68 : compatible
In the past 5 or so years, Intel has only had two chipsets per socket. And now we are on:
Z170, Z270 : so do you think a 3rd chipset will be compatible with the socket?
 
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i'm not sure , but from what it sounds like the 1151 is to stay for sometime , rich people will swtich to 2066 never the less . but your point is valid and funny kaby lake sounds like an NBA player kobe whatever so lol
 
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No one really knows for sure, theres still a big question mark over it, one thing we do know for sure is it will release at the same time as a new chipset, the Z370, as to whether this will be socket 1151, no one knows, Intel are being very quiet about it, if it is then I guess you could just update the bios on a Z270 board to support it.

For Intel to support 3 generations of chips on 1 chipset, well they've never done that before that I can remember, but maybe i'll be proved wrong this time, by 3 generations, I mean so far theres been Sky Lake, and Kaby Lake all on the same socket.......the 3rd possibly being Coffee ???? who knows ?????
 
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The difference is that in the past Intel had a tick-tock cadence which resulted in a new architecture (and socket) every other generation. Who know's what they'll do now that they abandoned that pattern. AFAIK, coffee lake is just another refinement (like Kaby Lake), and uses the same microarchitecture as skylake/kabylake (and is still on a 14 nm lithography). It's very plausible they could use the same socket.
 
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Vote me down all you like, but Z370 is mentioned all over the place.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/intel-to-launch-6-core-coffee-lake-s-cpus-z370-chipset-in-august-2017.18776943/

http://wccftech.com/intel-x299-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-z370-coffee-lake-s-z390-cannonlake-cpu-details/ This one calls the socket LGA 1151 V2 ?


Coffee Lake S will be launching alongside the brand new Z370 chipset which is known as CFL-PCH (Coffee Lake PCH). The platform will feature the LGA 1151 V2 socket so while it will have the same number of pins as the current LGA 1151 socket, it seems like Intel is moving to ditch support of the Coffee Lake CPUs on older LGA 1151 socketed motherboards such as Z270 series. It is stated that Intel will clearly be differentiating the socket with the use of “V2” moniker so consumers don’t end up buying the wrong board for their Coffee Lake desktop processor.

https://www.kitguru.net/components/motherboard/paul-taylor/intel-300-series-chipsets-to-provide-usb-3-1-gen2-and-gigabit-wi-fi/

http://digiworthy.com/2017/07/04/intel-coffee-lake-z370-motherboards-q4/
 
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all your links are from random user forums and clickbait websites

 
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Nm is not how wide the cpu thing is. This is much too small to correspond with anything you'd deal with. It also doesn't make sense as this is getting smaller. Also enthusiast is huge in comparison with the same process.

We knew it was 1151 since the beginning. This is another refresh after all. And 300 series chipsets have always been expected. The current rumors expect it to work on 100 and 200 series mobos with a bios update. Cannonlake will also be 1151 and be a similar situation.
 
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When a CPU is described as X nm (i.e. 14 nm for skylake/kabylake/coffeelake), it refers to what lithography process node the chip is fabricated on. It doesn't (necessarily) dictate the size of the CPU die, and definitely doesn't dictate the size of the package. Also, in the past, Intel has kept the same socket for die shrinks (e.g. moving from 22nm to 14nm); it's new micro-architectures that corresponded to new sockets.
 
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Since ddr5 is rumored to get out in 2018, I would say that it will be a new socket. Also, Intel and AMD are (will be) working on 10 nm...
If your present computer is 1-2 year old I would wait for this next step. Unless you need more core / thread. (might want to go with AMD in that case)
 
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The DDR5 spec is supposed to be released in 2018. Doesn't mean we're going to be seeing DDR5 in the wild anytime that year. DDR4 spec was released in September 2012, and the first consumer DDR4 platform (X99) didn't appear for another 2 years.
 
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This was published on Hexus today:

"As all the CPUs use LGA1151 they are likely to work on existing 100 and 200 series motherboards with BIOS support updates. It will be very interesting to see how Intel stirs up the rest of its range, like the Core i5 and i3 processors, to remain competitive outside of its higher end consumer processors segment."

http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/108217-trio-intel-coffee-lake-hexa-core-cpus-leaked/

Nothing is known for sure. If Intel plans to wait for Q4, I'll just go with Ryzen 1600/1700. It would be a no brainer for me if Ryzen had an IGP so I wouldn't have to buy two GPUs if I go with AMD.
 
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not only that , but also pci express 4 will be coming for intel , and AMD will be kept with the old thing like before .
 
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Coffee lake will be out in the coming months, not 2018. Cannon lake is 2018 and 10nm issues were resolved not too long ago. They are in full production and expecting a 1h 2018 release.

I don't get why ddr5 or pcie 4 were even mentioned. When official specs are released, there's development time for manufacturers to get it implemented which is at least a year. Just look at release dates of previous specs vs when actual hardware came out with them. With cannon already in production, ice lake would be the soonest which we know for sure is a new socket.
 
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You mean what I've been saying all along lol, it's going to be socket 1151 v2, why did anyone think any different, Intel do it all the time, take the socket 2011 for instance, there was v1, v2 and v3, and this is why I dropped Intel for their rippp roffff.......... Sorry I mean so called tick tock tactics.
 
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