Integrated GPU runs at the same time with the Dedicated GPU.

Bogdan_32

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Hi, so i bought a laptop gaming and the CPU(i7 with integrated intel grapichs) is overheating at 80 C while playing games.I think it is because the integrated GPU runs at the same time with the dedicated GPU.I monitorized my GPUs usage with the msi afterburner and it looks like this:
http://imgur.com/a/NbrNO
This time it didnt heated so much bc i havent played too much.
The integrated GPU usage varies to 10% to 30%.

My questions are:Can i run only the dedicated GPU, will it make a difference?; Should i woryy about the CPU temperature?

Sorry for my bad english.
 
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That's the difference in a gaming laptop and a non-gaming laptop. Gaming laptops have higher power components that use more energy and create more heat. High powered gaming laptops are not ideal due to cooling restrictions.

Look at the difference in these two CPUs. Both of them are Core i7's that go in laptops...
If this is a laptop with switchable graphics (Optimus on Nvidia, I forget the name on AMD), the this is normal.

Early laptops with switchable graphics had a physical switch or a BIOS setting to control which GPU was in use. Their drawback was if you switched graphics, everything running on the computer used the new GPU. So battery life plummeted when you switched to the dedicated graphics even if the computer was sitting idle with no game running.

Modern switchable graphics switch GPUs in software, and more importantly allow you to assign GPUs on a program-by-program basis. So your web browser can be using integrated graphics, while the game uses dedicated graphics. And during the few minutes you quit the game to tweak some settings, the laptop automatically reverts to using integrated graphics.

The way this is done is the integrated graphics always controls the screen. The dedicated GPU shows up as a co-processor. The game uses the GPU to render a frame. The frame is then sent to the integrated graphics for display. The dedicated GPU never controls the screen, only the integrated graphics does. (This can cause a problem with certain older or poorly coded games which stop searching for a GPU after finding just one - back in the days before switchable graphics it was reasonable to assume all computers only had one GPU. The first GPU it finds is the integrated graphics, so the game never finds and cannot use the dedicated GPU.) So it's completely normal for both GPUs to be active when gaming on a modern laptop.

Anyhow, for your temperature issue, that's actually a pretty good temp for a gaming laptop. But if you wish to lower it further, a lot of times the game does lots of extra work with the CPU even though the GPU is the bottleneck on framerate. If this is the case, you can try turning off hyperthreading in the BIOS if you have an i7. You can also disable turbo boost on an i5 or i7. Power options -> change plan settings -> change advanced -> processor power management -> maximum power state -> set it to 99%. If you want you can set the percentage even lower to limit the CPU's clock speed. You'll probably find that you can lower it all the way to 70%-80% with little to no effect on framerate because most games are GPU-bottlenecked.
 

Bogdan_32

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I dont have the option to disable the igpu in bios unfortunately and
I am running the laptop on a cooling pad from the very first time i used it.
 

Bogdan_32

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I asked one of my friends that has an HP, not for gaming but decent specs.He told me than when he plays games, the laptop doesnt overheat that much.Also he said that his cooling fans wont stay activated for long time, just for the components to cool and then stops.My coolers, when i play games(ex:cs go, watchdogs) stay forever activated and i still get high temp.
 


That's the difference in a gaming laptop and a non-gaming laptop. Gaming laptops have higher power components that use more energy and create more heat. High powered gaming laptops are not ideal due to cooling restrictions.

Look at the difference in these two CPUs. Both of them are Core i7's that go in laptops, but the HQ has 4 cores and a TDP of 45W while the U has 2 cores and a TDP of 15W. Which one do you think produces more heat? Even at that HQ has half the power of a full-powered desktop Core i7. So that's why it's not ideal, it's half the power yet get's just as hot or hotter due to the confined space of being in a laptop.

i7-7700HQ - https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/i7-processors/i7-7700hq.html

i7-7660U - https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/i7-processors/i7-7660u.html

The GPU's are the same way if not more. Gaming laptops have higher powered, dedicated GPUs that produce more heat.

Even with a cooling pad you will still experience higher temps than a non-gaming laptop.

Long story short, higher temps and fans constantly running while gaming is something you will have to deal with in a gaming laptop.
 
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Bogdan_32

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Thanks very much, you got me clear, I thought there was something wrong.