Upgrading AMD FX 4100 to FX 8350

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Hey all, so I am planning on upgrading my computer that currently has 8GB of ram, an ASUS M5A99FZ Pro R2.0 MOBO, and GTX 970 and the FX 4100.

I am getting the 8350 since I cannot afford a whole rebuild and the 8350 can be bought at $130.

That being said, will the 8350 bottleneck the 970? Currently certain games, like PUBG, and CPU intensive games I get pretty bad performance.
 
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If you want to stay in the AM3+ series, I would suggest an FX-6350 and not the 83xx. I recently upgraded from a 6350 to an R5 1600x but really didn't need to do so. Prior to the new build, I actually got new RAM going from 8 to 16GB and added an SSD. Both made a very noticeable difference in performance in both games and applications such as L3D Terrain tools.

I personally think that anything over a 6300 series is overkill for AM3+ systems. Depending on your budget, you're better off migrating to Ryzen and saving money in the long-term.
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Oops, ya sorry! I fat fingered it. Just looking to actually be able to play PUBG at a constant 60 fps. Just didnt want to throw my money away if it wont improve my experience!
 
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That's flat out incorrect for the CPU. (mixed feelings about the RAM upgrade as I have 8GB but have never, ever actually needed it for any game provided I don't have a web browser running)

The FX-8350 can and will bottleneck the GTX970 in many, many games. Sometimes you'd get over 40% higher FPS with a top-end CPU. (I've seen over 60% better in some games with similar GPU. not kidding)

This is only with a GTX580 (GTX970 is probably 50% faster or so), and these older AMD CPU's are already insufficient:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4770k_review,23.html

It's just an example, and of course there are games the FX-8350 should do very well in. DOOM for example is pretty well threaded now in VULKAN, and I think the Battlefield series does a pretty good job.

Now I'm not saying it's a poor choice considering his budget. It's not, and of course if it gets him to 60FPS rather than say 45FPS and that's all he wants then great.

OTHER:
Adaptive VSYNC is a great tweak for some games. It auto turns VSYNC OFF to prevent stuttering if you use VSYNC but can't maintain the cap (60FPS for 60Hz monitor). Here's an example:
a) run game but note constant drops below 60FPS even after trying to tweak game settings
b) VSYNC OFF
c) NCP-> manage 3d settings-> program settings-> add game-> Adaptive VSYNC -> SAVE
d) FPS counter in game should stay mostly at 60FPS (aim for 90% or so locked by adjusting settings) but if you drop below you should get a little screen tearing rather than stuttering

*This helped me a lot for Assassin's Creed games as they dip a lot even on a top-end system.
 
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https://www.techspot.com/review/1267-battlefield-1-benchmarks/page4.html

That's an example of what your upgrade can do, and this game is better than most. R9-Fury X is about 25% or so better than a GTX970 so scaling should be similar.

*I believe that Multiplayer is often more stressful than benchmark testing usually shows, especially if you go to a larger map with more client data to process on your local PC. So it's possible you might gain 50% higher FPS in some situations.
 
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Unfortunately they don't review games every time there's an update so things may have changed. That said tweaktown's review of pubg even compared to ryzen (which greatly improved on the fx's ipc performance), intel cpu's performed better. It was showing to be a cpu intensive game and regardless of cpu min fps drops were pretty low so maintaining 60fps constant may not happen no matter which cpu is used. The gtx 1060 may be a close comparison to the 970 at 1080p.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/8189/playerunknowns-battlegrounds-benchmarked-cpu-gpu-war/index5.html

That's comparing a 6c/12t ryzen 5 to an intel i5, doubtful the fx series would hold up near as well. You might be better off holding onto your money and saving up for a better cpu/mobo/ram vs investing into fx further. It was in desperate need of an upgrade before ryzen came along and it's not getting any better as time goes on.
 
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^ This... so much this!

My previous 8350 even bottlenecked my GTX 660 across all games on my old rig.

I know you're on a budget, but personally, I would try and save some more money towards a mobo & cpu upgrade so you can appreciate the 970 properly
 
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If you want to stay in the AM3+ series, I would suggest an FX-6350 and not the 83xx. I recently upgraded from a 6350 to an R5 1600x but really didn't need to do so. Prior to the new build, I actually got new RAM going from 8 to 16GB and added an SSD. Both made a very noticeable difference in performance in both games and applications such as L3D Terrain tools.

I personally think that anything over a 6300 series is overkill for AM3+ systems. Depending on your budget, you're better off migrating to Ryzen and saving money in the long-term.
 
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