Micro stuttering issue with new build

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Hi,

I have problem with the new pc I've built.

Every game that I play, even the older ones, have micro stutter. For the last couple of weeks I've tried to find a solution for this, but could not find any that worked for me.

Here are all the parts I used: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/b8GfTH
(+ stock intel cooler)

What I've tried so far:

- checking the ram for issues
- swapping out the graphics card
- updating graphics card drivers
- trying a different power supply
- changing the hard drive
- changing all SATA cables to new ones
- disabling the windows page file/virtual ram
- reinstalling windows
- putting windows power settings to high performance
- changing the HDMI cable
- reinstalling all games
- enabling V-Sync
- checking for malware
- updating the chipset drivers

At this point im just frustrated and don't know what else I could do.

Do you have any ideas what the cause of this could be?



 
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Okay, I've just tried that. Unfortunately it did not fix the issue. Also, I've swapped the graphics card to a R7 370 but that didnt help. Any other suggestions?

 
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Can you give a few examples of games that microstutter and your video settings for those games? I assume "minesweeper" does not have problems but if it does that is useful input. "..Every game that I play, even the older ones, have micro stutter..."

Do you use the term microstutter the same way wilipedia does .. ".. irregular delays between frames rendered by the GPU(s), causing the instantaneous frame rate of the longest delay to be significantly lower than the frame rate reported by benchmarking applications, such as 3DMark, ..." Or are you just saying you get an occasional pause while gaming that could be from internet delays, background programs, etc. What are you using to measure the "microstutter?

DIAGNOSTIC 1: Since swapping video cards did nothing, try slowing down your CPU and see if the microstutter gets worse or stays the same. Use your BIOS overclocking settings to underclock your i3.

DIAGNOSTIC 2: Run windows resource monitor in the background underneath the games you are playing after a stutter use the window key to jump to resource monitor and see if the CPU was at 80% or higher, if the disk drive had IO long operations, etc. google "resource monitor windows 10" to see how
 
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Yes, it's similar to how wikipedia describes it. Framerates are very high but there are small stutters.

Games that microstutter are pretty much all I games i own, to name a few: CSGO, Grand Theft Auto 4 & 5, Left 4 Dead 2, Mafia 2, Payday 2, The Witcher 3, and even old ones like GTA San Andreas, Trackmania or The Sims 2.
I usually play all these games on high settings, and if I'm not able to hit at least 30 fps then I just turn the settings down.
The micro stuttering also happens on low resolutions and settings

Here are some screenshots of the resource monitor and MSI Afterburner

resource monitor: http://

MSI Afterburner: http://
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How often are the microstutters ? Many times a second or more like once or twice in 3 minutes ?

You are showing two spikes of disk usage. Its rare for a game to use disk except for things like loading levels.
Does your case have a disk activity light, and if so does it come on when you are seeing stutters ?

The CPU from the graph could be one or two single thread processes running at 100% CPU. Can you confirm you see 4 CPU graphs on the CPU detail tab (that proves you have hyperthreading enabled) ?

Can you look at a few youtube vidoes by searching youtube with "youtube cod i3-6100". See if they are running the same detail level as you are, and getting the same frame rates. See if they are stuttering too.
 
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The micro stutters happen once every 5 seconds or so but its very noticable and annoying.

The disk activity light flashes a few times in games but not really when it stutters.

There are 4 CPU graphs in the resource monitor CPU tab so hyperthreading seems to be enabled http://

In most Youtube Videos the framerates seem to be about the same as mine and theres also some stutter present but that not as much as for me.

Is it the CPUs fault then?
 
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I'm wondering if you are running out of CPU. I think that's what you mean too. Given you see some stutter in the youtube videos it may be that this is as good as the i3 gets on these settings.

If you underclock the i3 then you can see if the stutters are more frequent. A easy way to do this is via windows power management to change "maximum processor state" in advance power profile settings from 100% to 80%, or you could do this via your BIOS CPU multiplier. Here's a partial 'how to' on getting to windows advanced power management if you are not familiar with it. The setting you want is in "processor power management" https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2843-change-power-plan-settings-windows-10-a.html

If underclocking the CPU 10-20% does not change the stutter rate then it's not the CPU.

If you are out of CPU there is not much you can do. I did not see any XMP profile on your memory, manually overclocking memory might give you a percent or two performance. Setting your power policy to max performance might also help a bit (Windows waits longer before dropping frequency). The next step up is a large one, game reviews will give you the frame rate difference between an i5 and your i3 for the games you play most.

You may be more sensitive to stutter than other people. "..and if I'm not able to hit at least 30 fps then I just turn the settings down...". You can also try to get the average frames closer to 40 or 50 rather than having a floor of 30 by changing settings. That will bring up the minimum frame rate and be a better "eye candy / stutter" trade-off for you. As you can see from this review, the i3-6100 is respected, but will have lower 1% frame rates than faster CPUs on the same game using the same gtx 960 you are using. https://www.techspot.com/review/1087-best-value-desktop-cpu/page4.html (Note the review does not show current gen i5s, they will be faster. It does show that CPU is limiting in most games with the quality settings they are using and a GTX 960)


 
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