what can i add to HP Compaq 8200

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hello its a i5 2400 HP pc, with very low PSU.. about 220W i think.. what gpu can i put into it for my brother playing minecraft, rolbox, csgo, (and want to have gta v but i guess the gpu isnt strong enough for that..)..
i saw gt 610, 550 GTX, 6770, GT 730in 30$.. is it worth the upgrade?
which other gpu can i get on the market for this pc?
 
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Hopefully it's not the All-in-One version -- don't have a lot of experience with them, but I imagine they're almost as difficult to work on as laptops.

So hopefully it's one of the desktop models.

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02778024.pdf

Bad news is, yes, it's an OEM power supply, so the quality is going to be low.

Good news is...you may have more wattage than you thought. Luckily you don't have that USDT model (130W or 180W?!?) -- basically, the USDT model is limited to the 65W CPUs, & your i5-2400 is a 95W CPU, ergo you have at least the Small Form Factor (SFF) model, or one of the tower models (MT or CMT) -- so you're looking at 240W for the SFF version, or 320W for the MT/CMT models. That's not great, but it should...

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Hopefully it's not the All-in-One version -- don't have a lot of experience with them, but I imagine they're almost as difficult to work on as laptops.

So hopefully it's one of the desktop models.

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02778024.pdf

Bad news is, yes, it's an OEM power supply, so the quality is going to be low.

Good news is...you may have more wattage than you thought. Luckily you don't have that USDT model (130W or 180W?!?) -- basically, the USDT model is limited to the 65W CPUs, & your i5-2400 is a 95W CPU, ergo you have at least the Small Form Factor (SFF) model, or one of the tower models (MT or CMT) -- so you're looking at 240W for the SFF version, or 320W for the MT/CMT models. That's not great, but it should be enough to power a

Of the 4 GPUs you mentioned, 2 of them (GTX 550, HD 6770) are at the same tier (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html). However, both require too much power; they're both rated at over 100W of TDP, which almost guarantees they need a PCIe power cord (& I can just about guarantee your PSU doesn't have that).
-- SFF can take low-profile cards, but the x16 slot is limited to 25W maximum. I'm not sure that's enough power for those cards in particular. Heck, I'm pretty sure that's enough for a low-profile GTX 750 or 1050. Your options would be more limited to things like a Radeon HD 6450, an R7 250, an R7 240, or (probably your best option) a GT 1030.
-- MT & CMT can take full-height cards. The x16 slot can provide 75W (enough for a GTX 1050 or even the older GTX 750TI), but only if you don't have anything in the x4 slot; if you do, it cuts off at 35W (apparently the x4 & x16 slots share power). Again, you can't rely on power directly from the PSU, but you could get a GTX 1050 (or, if you can find one that doesn't need PCIe power connectors, a GTX 1050TI).

Now, don't know how powerful these GPU options would be, but since the system is probably running off of the integrated graphics right now, you should see some major improvements.

If you need more performance, consider the following:
-- if it's running a 64-bit version of Windows, then try to max out the RAM. It may not take the fastest RAM, but it does take DDR3, & yours will take up to 16GB (4GB per slot).
-- See if you can find an i7-2700. It's a little faster, & the extra threads can help out.
-- Check the size of the PSU. If it's a standard ATX size, then you could get a better retail PSU. Getting at least a decent-quality 450W, or even 550W, PSU would allow you to put a really decent GPU in there. Unless you're going to also get a new monitor, though, I wouldn't look for anything better than a GTX 1060 or RX 480/580.
 
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wow, thank you so much u helped me a lot.. meanwhile i did my research also, and i found out also that probably the 550 and 6770 would be too much for me, so i started to think about gt 730, and gt 1030.. i saw 1030 gt peformance are pretty amazing, runing gta v on low settings 1080p, on average 60 fps.. i know its not a monster but i dont need a monster.
also i can confirm that i have SFF version for sure (cause of how it looks and its also the only one that sit on its sideway(sorry for my bad english), so i started to go down from the idea of getting GTX version, cause even 750 GTX wont run on this small psu. and btw just so u know its not possible to change psu here in this HP build, and i dont want to waste money on this, its a pc for my 7 yrs brother.. i got offered for used gt 730 for about 28$, but i saw that the gt 1030 is way better, but theres zero ppl that sells the card in my country (Israel), i can only buy it new and it will cost 90$... i guess i will wait for gt 1030, or just buy the 730, is there anything else i should consider to buy? maybe something from amd like r7 250..

btw i upgraded it to 8gb ram and added 250 ssd just so u know
 

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The R5 250 (sorry, I had the R7 listed in error) or R7 240 would be fine from a power perspective, I just don't know if they come in low-profile models. If it comes down to it, though, a GT 730 would probably outperform the R5 & R7, so if that's available it should be fine.
 

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god bless u thank u so much for helping me...
 

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do u think its safe to change cpu to this pc? if i can get an i7 3770, or i5 2500K, in a good price, can i upgrade it? im afraid because i know that the cpu requires W from psu so it might be requiring to much..?
 

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thanks, i dont think i will do it but good to know that i can
 

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what about this: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GT-1030-AERO-ITX-2G-OC.html#hero-overview
it looks massive like the GTX series, will it run okay on the system :(?

and i also afraid it wont fit in the size of it..
http://www.xdselectronics.ca/eBay_files/products/6200-8200%20Pro/H24-1636_phcallout07_cba_1398471.jpg