How does this build look for a ~$650 budget?

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MountainDrew329

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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKC9D8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKC9D8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid Lite 120 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($144.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($31.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $635.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-04 23:59 EDT-0400

I would also be buying windows 10 from kinguin for like 30 bucks so the total comes to about $665.

This build was recommended to me by Jonathan Tyer.

Are all these parts good matches for each other? Are there any changes you would make (staying within the same price range) to improve this build?

Thanks!
 
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Firstly, you don't need that cooler. Remove it and use the stock cooler, it's good enough.

Secondly, as the other answer said, 8 GB is fine for that budget, try to get a better graphics card like the 1060. No need for an SSD, it doesn't help a lot in games, but it does help in applications that you install on the SSD, but for a budget system it's not a necessity. It's more important to get a better GPU.

Thirdly, I disagree with the hate against kinguin. Now granted I've actually never used it, but I've heard only praise for Kinguin from a very trusted source. The praise in question can be found here(starts at around 16:51):

https://youtu.be/6sIaFmx_FS0

So you can absolutely use Kinguin, just make sure the seller has good reviews...
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- The CPU cooler does not perform well thermal wise and audibility compared to HSFs in the price range. Also, You do not need an aftermarket CPU cooler for that CPU. Edit: Looking back, this is a new CPU cooler with only one semi reliable review: http://pcfoster.pl/artykul/cooler-master-masterliquid-lite-120-%E2%80%93-test-chlodzenia/1795-4.html . It isn't actually very bad for its price range, though I would still wait for more professional reviews.
- If this is for gaming, I suggest starting with 8GB of RAM and focus the money towards other parts. Most games at the moment use under 8GB anyways.
- I suggest trying to fit an SSD in there. It inst a necessity but it overall improves the responsive more than most other parts.
- Do not buy Windows 10 from kinguin. You are supporting criminals by buying and it may be inactivated at any time by Microsoft as it's against their TOS. If $80 is too much for you, there is the option of using Windows inactivated for free, or another OS in general.
 
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Firstly, you don't need that cooler. Remove it and use the stock cooler, it's good enough.

Secondly, as the other answer said, 8 GB is fine for that budget, try to get a better graphics card like the 1060. No need for an SSD, it doesn't help a lot in games, but it does help in applications that you install on the SSD, but for a budget system it's not a necessity. It's more important to get a better GPU.

Thirdly, I disagree with the hate against kinguin. Now granted I've actually never used it, but I've heard only praise for Kinguin from a very trusted source. The praise in question can be found here(starts at around 16:51):

https://youtu.be/6sIaFmx_FS0

So you can absolutely use Kinguin, just make sure the seller has good reviews, just like eBay.

If you can, get a 1060 instead of the 1050 Ti, everything else is great.

Oh and there are cheaper options for cases as well, might want to have a look at those.

Edit: Updated build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($81.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($216.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $649.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-05 00:35 EDT-0400
 
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Tech deals is an honest to god reviewer, and if he's advertising something, he'll state so clearly. Also, if they aren't 'legitimate', how come there's thousands of ratings on the sellers, and they have 5 stars? I doubt they're making a lot of profit paying thousands of people to give them good ratings.
 
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xG6WX

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xG6WX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xG6WX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SSC GAMING Video Card ($279.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman - Z3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($31.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $645.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-05 00:50 EDT-0400

Could also pair this up with a g4560 instead of this AMD if you don't plan on any future overclocks it may provide better FPS. http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2913-when-does-the-intel-pentium-g4560-bottleneck-gpu

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3002-amd-r3-1200-review-line-between-fine-and-exciting/page-4
 
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Getting a 2x4 RAM kit is usually not recommended, because it populates more RAM slots(duh) and reduces chances of upgrading to 16 GB. Now that motherboard has 4 RAM slots, but running 4 RAM sticks makes it nearly impossible to get high frequency with Ryzen.
 
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Yes, yes, I know it's supposed to be faster. But the difference is noticeable in high end builds, not such budget ones. Also, when buying 8 GB today, 1x8 GB is recommended so that upgrading to 16 GB is easier. My recommendation would be a 1x8 GB kit, the rest is up to OP of course.
 
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Yes I am definitely getting 1x8gb of ram for the purpose of future upgrades.
By the way, here are the parts I've basically decided to buy:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c2CcD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c2CcD8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($65.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $635.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-06 09:10 EDT-0400
 
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I hadn't really planned on overclocking the GPU but thanks for the advice! However I will try to overclock the Ryzen 3 1200 a bit since I've heard it's really easy to get it up to like 3.7GHz in the BIOS.
 
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