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Hello! So I've got everything in my PC settled after minor mistakes . Like having to clean thermal paste off of my pins from my CPU since AMD puts it on like it's clay . Anyways everything works fine , cleaned it off with coffee filters .
Here are my system specs :
Ryzen 5 1600
Asrock AB350M
G Skill Ripjaws 3200Mhz 16GB 2x8
Hyper 212
GTX 1070 Strix OC
Seasonic 650W
NZXT S340
240GB SSD
1TB HDD

So I know how to over clock . I got 3.8ghz on the stock cooler but now I'm wanting to get my memory at 3200mhz . I'm wondering what I need to do for that? Thanks
 
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The cas 16 alone tells me it's not B-die. By cross referencing the chart I linked to above it's a Samsung D-die kit. Max speed with the latest BIOS on a Ryzen system is 2933.

This isn't a case of the parts not working correctly as much as a case of not doing enough research before adopting a new technology. You bought a kit that's not fully compatible. As I stated above XMP is an Intel technology. That kit would run at 3200/16 on a compatible Intel system. :spamafote:
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Well if everything is compatible. Did you try going into the BIOS and enabling XMP?

I would also remove your OC before doing XMP. XMP also adds a slight over clock to the CPU to match the ram speeds. You can OC your CPU after XMP is enable and memory is at the clock speed you want.

You will get a more stable OC that way.
 
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RAM speed with Ryzen is still pretty much dependent on what ICs your RAM was made with. Here's the best list I've found.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/

Obviously you need the latest BIOS for your board.
 
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I don't know what I'm doing in the bios when it comes to memory . I've set my overclock back to stock however I tried putting my memory freq. to 3200mhz and the system kept trying to boot. Finally the system set the bios to defaults . I think I might have to manually set voltage or timings long side the freg?
 
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If XMP is seeing your memory correctly. You shouldn't have to play with timings or voltage. it is done automatically in the XMP Profile.

Turn on XMP
Select Profile 1
Save
Reboot

Check to see what clock speeds you are getting now on your memory. If you are not getting correct mhz. Then you may need to fine toon with timings and voltage.

Normally XMP is pretty good at doing this automatically though.
 
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Every single BIOS update for Ryzen including 2 big AGESA updates from AMD have addressed memory compatibility. My first link in this thread shows exactly what memory speeds you can expect from individual RAM kits with those updates.
 
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I don't know how you got an experimental XMP profile unless you write custom BIOS. And Intel is better ( with memory compatibility ). XMP is literally an Intel technology. AMD picked it up because with Intel's market share they had to. Z270 will run at DDR4 4000+ unless it's just a particularly bad board.

Ryzen is a brand new architecture and it's had some teething problems especially as related to memory. Generally the kits made with Samsung B-die ICs run at their rated speed. Everything else has been hit or miss. Since XMP profiles are aimed at Intel users there is now RAM with specific profiles for Ryzen ( GSkill Flare X ) on the market to ensure compatibility.

It's possible you have a bad stick of RAM. Run memtest for 10 to 12 hours with the RAM at default speed and see if it detects any errors.

http://www.memtest.org/
 
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I installed the newest bios from Asrocks website . However my memory still isn't working . Tried using XMP and doing it manually . Memory used is GSkill Ripjaws F4-3200C16D-16GVKB DDR4 3200 PC4-25600
CL16-18-18-38 1.35V
All that is from the package . Returning tomorrow and will stick with what I have for now . Tried everything really...
 
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The cas 16 alone tells me it's not B-die. By cross referencing the chart I linked to above it's a Samsung D-die kit. Max speed with the latest BIOS on a Ryzen system is 2933.

This isn't a case of the parts not working correctly as much as a case of not doing enough research before adopting a new technology. You bought a kit that's not fully compatible. As I stated above XMP is an Intel technology. That kit would run at 3200/16 on a compatible Intel system. :spamafote:
 
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It is. As long as you buy the right kit. GSkill has more B-die kits on the market than anyone else.

The DRAM modules on a RAM stick are only made by a few companies worldwide. Samsung, Hynix, Micron etc. These modules are made into the RAM you buy by companies like GSkill, Corsair and Kingston ( to name a few ). Samsung has been at the high end for a while both in sheer speed and overall compatibility.

Ryzen, being new and especially with the Infinity Fabric determining how parts of the CPU communicate with each other much like the old front side bus won't just work with anything. The last few BIOS updates have helped tremendously but as you are finding out, only some memory will work at its rated speed.

If anything return the RAM for a 3200/14 kit. TridentZ or Flare X. That pretty much guarantees it will work at the rated speed. Use the reddit list above to be exactly sure of what you're buying.

Edit: And don't trust retail employees. ;)
 
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May I have some newegg links? Links to kits that actually will run at 3200mhz? Thanks. Post a ton :)
 
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It's more of a new feature in MSI boards.

https://www.google.com/search?q=m7+gaming+xmp&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS751US751&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjo-_jtt8rVAhUE3IMKHbR6CHgQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1920&bih=990#imgrc=axj2wUp0RSeTiM:

It's the "memory try it" option.

I tried using all preset XMP profiles and none work. I had to use "memory try it" to get OCing to work.

I called it experimental because the pod cast even says "this doesn't mean they have been tested for your memory" They are simply engineer recommended memory presets. Plus this isn't a standard feature on all boards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4aScnskmdw

So the overall point here is that neither Intel nor AMD is perfect. They both have issues when it comes down to XMP and memory compatibility. Intel might have a wider range of compatibility but that is only because they been using the same standards for while now. AMD with Ryzen has only been around a very short time, so you cant expect the same compatibility in such a short time frame.
 
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Best deal I see on a B-die kit. It also just happens to be at newegg. You're stuck with the color though.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232407&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Edit: All the colors will work that's just the only one on sale. The others are $20 more.
 
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Okay. I could always spray the White part a different cooler if I really wanted to.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232530&cm_re=flare_x-_-20-232-530-_-Product
These seem to be my best bet?^^
 
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The Flare kits were designed for Ryzen but the TridentZ kits use the same ICs. Both will run at full speed. I just picked the TridentZ based on price. You didn't specify a color preference.
 
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I mean black or red would be fine...
 
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