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I really want to build my first gaming pc, And I've been using pcpartpicker and looking at pc parts on amazon. However, When I look at the 1/5 star reviews on amazon of the pc parts, Its scary and true , And I dont feel like building a pc anymore.
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1) most people are idiots

2) if you really know what you're looking for a lot of the time they didn't have an issue other than being idiots (incompatible parts/bad installing/bought ram didn't set speeds so it ran slow like all ram)

3) people who are happy with a purchase tend to wait 5-6 months to review something. People who are pissed do it immediately. So basically by the time a real set of reviews come in the next thing is the new thing.

4) doa/broken complaints see above a certain number of parts will show up broken. It looks like a lot when say 5/50 reviews say this, just remember that doesn't mean 1/10 are broken it means everyone that got one that was reviewed the part, certainly not everyone who didn't get a broken one did.


I've built many many computers, I've had exactly 1 motherboard shown up DOA, 1 stick of ram faulty, and countless hard drives fail in customers rigs, but all of them were in excess of 4 years old
 
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If you visit sites like PCPartPicker, you will find PC components ranked higher than Amazon, simply because people there know how to build a PC, unlike random Amazon purchasers who go for a component just 'because it looks good.'
 
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https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIAAEE4M22712/reviews?rating=1&sort=0

Perhaps the fan review nis legit.

First one... The p at the end means no onboard video... Idiot.

Third guy no chance the processor died in 5 mins,

4th guy had a Sandy bridge chipset needed a bios update to support the ivy bridge CPU

5th guy either 1) didn't have onboard video and mistook it for DOA, or bought a 6* series board and it wasn't supported

Last guy. 40c is perfect for a stock cooler. Idiot again.
 
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It isn't a good idea to base a firm selection of parts off general-consumer reviews, as the above posts suggest. It is better to find professional reviews, or if you are unsure ask a community such as PCPartPicker or here at TomsHardware.

Also, people are more likely to leave a review if something didn't work to their favour, rather than if it did.
 
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That really says it all, especially these days with things being much easier than they ever have been before and people still screw it up.

Negatives will always outweigh the positives as people are more prone to leave a negative complaint about something then praise.

If something works most people tend to never say a word about it.

And these days most people complain about everything anyway so take anything with a grain of salt.

Having built a lot of computers over the past 20+ years things do happen, sometimes there are bad batches, parts that come in DOA, or die within a week or so.

For my personal machines I have had one motherboard go bad after about a week (part of a bad batch), 5 HD's die within a month (bad batch) and one graphics card die in less than 1 hour.



 
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Consider this:

Over the last few years, lets say I've bought 500 items from Amazon. Not exact, but in the ballpark.

I've written exactly zero good reviews. Why? Because stuff is supposed to work.

I've had exactly 1 DOA item...a UPS that absolutely would not power on.
Amazon promptly refunded me the total amount, incl tax and shipping. And let me keep the thing. (hey...free UPS batteries)

But if I wrote a bad review on that part....1 bad trumps 499 good.
 
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What I personally think is absolutely hilarious is when people buy all of those high end parts, CPU, MB, Graphics card and cheap out on the PSU, CPU cooler, RAM, and case. Then complain when they have issues.



 
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Buy from reputable dealers and don't cheap out on parts is normally the best way.

NO, you don't have to buy the most expensive things out there, but stay away from the cheapest ones.
 
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I've always watch recent budget gaming pc on youtubes. Like 50+ a week building gaming pc. I've always used the pcpartpicker. I've always look at the recent customer reviews on amazon. I've always look out for good quality PSU, I've always check to see how many fans are on the case. I've always find mobos that has 4 pin cpu fan and 4 pin case fan socket to mobos. So Im good to go right? I will not get defective gaming pc and other rma stuff?
 
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Budget builds on YT?

Ah.... Nope.

Road to doom.

Good place to start is to figure out what games you want to play and at what resolution.

That will give us a starting point.

And give us a realistic budget for a gaming machine, how much are you willing to spend?
 
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Budget Gaming PC is like 300-600 dollars. Why are you acting like that dude? Plus I have other things I didnt said. Ive also watch benchmarks for the gaming pc. In Conclusion I want to build a gaming pc with good pc components except for gpu because I dont have that much money. So probably gtx 1050ti. I've always look for company budget 4-5 star review cases that it has screws on ,and check the reviews if the usb 3.0 port works or not and other wires of the cases. and I've always check to see if the motherboard that supports ryzen cpu, memory 2000 below or higher. I haven't found an answer so far. So If I decide to get a budget gaming that is 300-600 dollars, Im more likely to get defective gaming pc parts putting it together. So I'll guess I'll just stick to console lowly peasant then because its only $250-300 consoles.
 
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You aren't going to build much for $600 and under that won't give you both issues and low performance.

You will need more if you want to build a reliable machine that will perform.

That's taking into consideration that you will need everything including Windows.

Just Windows and a GTX 1050Ti is about half of your $600 budget for example.

And that's not even getting started.

You still need a CPU, Power Supply, motherboard, RAM, Hard Drive, case, Keyboard, mouse, and a monitor...... All for about $300 since half of the $600 is already gone on the graphics card and Windows. And that's not even including fans for the case if needed or a CPU cooler.

You need more of a budget than $600, just being realistic here.



 
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DOAs parts not working as they should are inevitable. Not saying you will have a defective part, but there are no guarantees you won't. People that don't understand this are the ones that give a product a one star rating for DOA.

The problem I find with most YouTube builds, they skimp out on parts/have misunderstandings of some products. I find many recommend the EVG 500B because it is a "Great, reliable, cheap unit" when in reality it isn't.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($216.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Raidmax - Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $573.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-09 06:33 EDT-0400


That's plenty of budget to build a nice solid rig. If you need anything beyond that parts wise I can make a few tweaks.
 
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You forgot Windows and a Monitor... Not to mention he will also need at least one more case fan, input devices and speakers (depending on the Monitor) etc, all for for $27.......

A few teaks... LOL

He is starting from scratch..... ;)
 
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The ones I have seen over the years they really skimp out on parts like you said, most of those systems will not be reliable and will have poor performance even for mid range machines.

Most of them would be email machines at best and would be better off forgoing the graphics cards and upgrading the other parts to better quality.
 
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Added to Supahos list to include all of what is needed.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($216.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Raidmax - Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($7.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus - VE228H 21.5" 1920x1080 Monitor ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Cooler Master - Devastator II Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($25.49 @ OutletPC)
Total: $796.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-09 10:43 EDT-0400


Not too bad really, the case is horrendous though, but it is a budget build.

Could always add more ram and an SSD later on and maybe a better keyboard and mouse.


Here is another option with a different CPU, Motherboard and Graphics card.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($78.87 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B250M-K Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Windforce OC Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax - Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - R4-S2S-124K-GP 44.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($7.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus - VE228H 21.5" 1920x1080 Monitor ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Cooler Master - Devastator II Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($25.49 @ OutletPC)
Total: $713.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-09 11:04 EDT-0400

That's really about as low as it is going to get for a complete system and still have some sort of performance.

As above however I would still recommend a better case and maybe better Keyboard and mouse.
 
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1) there is no reason to buy windows from the beginning as it's perfectly fine to run it on trial mode until you buy it later, or don't.

2) where did he mention not having a monitor/keyboard or mouse? He may in fact not have those things, but i didn't see where he said he didn't.
 
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He didn't say that he already had them either.
 
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