I have this build in mind https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CrHcD8 and don't know what b350 motherboard to pair with it. I was thinking msi b350 gaming pro or the msi b350 tomahawk. And should I go for the micro atx or atx. I don't know if the 20GBP difference is worth it or not.
Best mobo for ryzen 3 1200?
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TechyInAZ
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From what I've heard any of the MSI motherboards are quite good.
Honestly both atx and micro atx are great options. Do you need the lower form factor of micro atx?
Honestly both atx and micro atx are great options. Do you need the lower form factor of micro atx?
No I dont need the micro atx for the size I have a atx case in mind as you can see in my build. my only question is if the micro atx is better value than the atx version of the b350 mobo in an atx size case. I do think that the atx is better because I will only get 8 gb of ram so I can upgrade it in the future more easily. But I don't really know the difference between the manufactures/brand so I need a opinion from an other person that knows more than me.(this is my first build)
Ps I want to overclock it to get more out of the build so keep that in mind too.
TechyInAZ
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If you plan on overclocking, I'd stay away from the B350M gaming pro micro atx variant as is a very limited board with fewer VRMs (lower OC potential) and only 2 DIMM slots.
Go with ATX if your not doing micro atx, ATX usually has the best value.
Go with ATX if your not doing micro atx, ATX usually has the best value.
Ok thanks for the advice. Can you recommend a b350 atx motherboard for me because that whould save me a lot of time. Btw if you have any tips for noobs on overclocking this build that whould be nice
Edit: how big of a power supply do I need for overclocking this build?
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Just changjng the case & PSU gets you a hyper threaded ryzen 5 1400 in for the same money.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£143.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£74.02 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£88.95 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card (£199.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman - R1 ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.49 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £638.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£143.94 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£74.02 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£88.95 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card (£199.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman - R1 ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.49 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £638.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-08 17:02 BST+0100
TechyInAZ
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Sure My personal favorite: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132988
However another very good option is this one (overkill on the VRMs for a quad core Ryzen CPU): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157759
My personal favorite: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132988However another very good option is this one (overkill on the VRMs for a quad core Ryzen CPU): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157759
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Still like the pro 4 personally, no frills but great quality.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4
TechyInAZ
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Yeah the Pro4 is another great option. I use the pro4 (from the H87 Pro4 to the H270 Pro4) all the time for my client builds.
TechyInAZ
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If you can afford it, by all means yes. Hyperthreading can help significantly, even in games with quad core CPUs.
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^ while the 1200 is absolutely great value I do think the 1400 has much much better future proofing.
The 1400 is still incredible value , Infact the 1200 is the only chip that does make it look even slightly expensive.
If you can afford the 1400 by swapping the PSU then I would.
The 1400 is still incredible value , Infact the 1200 is the only chip that does make it look even slightly expensive.
If you can afford the 1400 by swapping the PSU then I would.
TechyInAZ
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Plus a 550W G2 is kinda overkill (just wish they made a g2 450W). The CX430W should be enough for overclocking.
Just as an example, I'm running a gtx 1060 6GB overclocked, 16GB of 3200mhz RAM and a Ryzen 7 1700X and i can't even get to 50% usage on my G3 550W.
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The only issue with the ryzen 1200 vs 1400 (on a set budget) is that that extra £50 would actually net you a 1960 6gb near as dammit.
If it had to be a choice because of total cost I think I'd likely take a ryzen 1200 + 1060 6gb over a ryzen 1400 + 1060 3gb.
The 3gb 1060 is not a card I'm (& I'm not alone) fond of , the 6gb is boundless amounts stronger.
If it had to be a choice because of total cost I think I'd likely take a ryzen 1200 + 1060 6gb over a ryzen 1400 + 1060 3gb.
The 3gb 1060 is not a card I'm (& I'm not alone) fond of , the 6gb is boundless amounts stronger.
TechyInAZ
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Just depends on your needs. That's a tough one though, 6GB or hyperthreading hmmmm?? I'd personally just say screw it and buy a 1500X and a 6GB 1060 but I know not everybody can just break out of budget.
Ok so the decision is between 1200+16003gb or 6gb and 1400+1060 3gb. I will only be useing this build to play games such as overwatch, pubg and maby the new cod game at 1080p 60hz. So I don't need to spend a lot of money. Btw do you think I should consider the 1050ti since it has 4gb. I think I will go with the https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/yBtWGX/asrock-ab350-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350-pro4 since a lot of you guys recommended it.
TechyInAZ
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I think the quad core should be enough. I'd get the 1200 with the 1060 6GB, especially if your overclocking.
Plus AM4 will be supported until 2020 according to AMD so technically you should be able to drop in a Zen Plus CPU in the future.
Madmatt30 and teckyaz the only issue with picking the 1060 6gb over the 3gb is that the price to prefomence is way less on the 6gb version. Btw what does the extra 3gb do for the prefomence? And does the extra 3gb help with overclocking? Personally I don't think that the 10% perfomence increase is worth the 25 or so % price increase.
TechyInAZ
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Problem with the 3GB variant is that you'll run out of vram REALLY fast on the newest titles, it's sort of a nightmare having full vram because you can get stuttering which looks terrible, far worse than low FPS.
TechyInAZ
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Depends on how long you have the card. If you want to play more non AAA games at 1080P ultra settings for the next 2 years you should be fine with the 3GB.
Plus, you can play the AAA titles just disable MSAA and lower textures to high.
Plus, you can play the AAA titles just disable MSAA and lower textures to high.
TechyInAZ
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Yes for me personally I'd say so. Having no stuttering is a must for me personally.
However, it also depends on settings. The only settings it can't handle is 1080P ultra. If you put everything to high settings, it'll be fine.
However, it also depends on settings. The only settings it can't handle is 1080P ultra. If you put everything to high settings, it'll be fine.
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