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chemmajorp53
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Neither is good for gaming, the R3 1200 will be significantly faster than either of them. If you want to build a gaming PC and would like a list of specs, there are hundreds of people here that would love to help you. Just give us a budget
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The fx are outdated and significantly behind in terms of performance. They were popular because they were inexpensive for the number of cores vs intel and many were on a 'moar cores' kick. Core count nor clock speed is the entire story, performance/power of the individual cores plays a big role (ipc performance). Fx was lacking and in many tasks was being beaten out by 3rd and 4th gen intel chips at the same price range despite having 1/2 to 1/3 fewer cores in just about all tasks. They were in dire need of a replacement to improve them a few years back and now amd has finally released ryzen.
Ryzen's addressed many of those issues, their boards include more modern/current features as well as moved to the ddr4 ram standard. They improved ipc quite a bit, bringing amd up to intel's ipc performance somewhere between 4th and 6th gen. Ryzen's clock speeds look slower compared to fx but because of ipc improvements similar to intel, they're actually faster than fx.
Long story short, fx weren't great gaming chips a couple years ago and even less so today with better options from both intel and amd. If someone already has an fx and it's fitting their needs then that's one thing, purposely building around fx isn't a good choice for a new pc build.
Ryzen's addressed many of those issues, their boards include more modern/current features as well as moved to the ddr4 ram standard. They improved ipc quite a bit, bringing amd up to intel's ipc performance somewhere between 4th and 6th gen. Ryzen's clock speeds look slower compared to fx but because of ipc improvements similar to intel, they're actually faster than fx.
Long story short, fx weren't great gaming chips a couple years ago and even less so today with better options from both intel and amd. If someone already has an fx and it's fitting their needs then that's one thing, purposely building around fx isn't a good choice for a new pc build.
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The FX CPUs are obsolete and so are their motherboards which haven't had new chipsets in years, I wouldn't consider any of them fit for a new build. As already mentioned, the Ryzen 1200 will beat them most of the time, with the benefits of lower power consumption and modern motherboards with updated native IOs.
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It is one of the best bang-per-buck CPUs on Intel's side, if you can find it at the MSRP. Many stores are out of stock and those that have 'em in stock tend to inflate prices.
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You're 5 years late for an fx chip. Do your self a favor and just buy the newest architecture. An AMD R5 1400 is about as good as an 8 core fx chip, so I recommend you buy the newest gen cpus. You WILL regret it if you go for an AM3+ I guarantee it.
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You know that a Ryzen R3 1200 is almost the same price but kicks the g4560's ass, right? Like, by a lot...
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In most cases a 1200 oced handily beats a 4560. On a $600 budget you can get a 1200 and agtx 1060 and play any game on the market easily
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($216.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Raidmax - Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $573.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($216.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Raidmax - Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $573.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-09 06:33 EDT-0400
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$120 for the 1200 isn't the same price as $64 (MSRP) for the Pentium, it is nearly twice as much if you can find it at its MSRP. Relative to total system build cost though, I agree that it might not make much sense, especially at its current $80+ street price.
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No lmao,
R3 1200 ~ 110 USD
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113446&cm_re=ryzen_R3_1200-_-19-113-446-_-Product
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G4560 ~ 86 USD
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA85V5N23036&cm_re=g4560-_-19-117-743-_-Product
Intel chipset is more costly and you are only paying $24 (if you read my message I said almost btw not "the same") for 2 more cores, worth it regardless. You need to research on the inter-webs mate.
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Benches yes, actual gaming the low clockspeed of the 1200 hurts. Usually the 1300x still beats the i3s a lot of times the 1200 won't. Oced basically only the couple of games ryzen falls on its face itll lose to the i3s. Maybe a few really old pure single core games, but in those the 1200 would do well enough it wouldn't matter on a budget system.
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That's because the R3's are new, you need to give it a bit for game devs to optimize their games. Clock speed isn't the entire story, IPC, cache, and core count all matter more as a whole.
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The r3s aren't any different technologically speaking than the r5s or r7s. Actually they're easier to optimize for since there can't be any real thread scheduling issues since there isn't smt. Basically any optimization for ryzen would automatically translate to the r3s as well
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Yeah you're about it being easy to optimize for R3's, but the fact is ryzen still isn't well supported in general yet. So that translates in lower performance across all models. I can tell you from my experience with AMD, their products age well in terms performance. This is because they continue to optimize and increase performance for their devices overtime after launch, and I'm talking years not months of continual optimization. So give the R3's time and games will run much better on them, my guess is low end i5 7th gen performance once Ryzen ages a bit. Then again just my opinion.
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You will still get a big performance increase because two cores can be for the app and the other two cores for the os and background tasks. Also price is NOT an excuse, because I already said that they are very similar in price, plus intel chipsets are more costly. So you would end up paying the same or less, if you went AMD Ryzen instead. It's okay though because intel is the brand of CPU's that appeals to normies who buy a product because someone told them it was good.
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Price-for-price, Ryzen beats the i3/5/7 in quite a few benchmarks despite its clock frequency handicap so I wouldn't say that it "translates in lower performance across all models". Different architectures have different strengths and weaknesses. Architecture-specific optimizations may help but won't necessarily overcome the differences.
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"If" you can get a G4560 for retail price (like $65) between that and a budget motherboard you will probably save about $50-$60 over a Ryzen R 3 1200 system. I'd personally try to save the extra money for the R3 1200 (its generally better in most games), but if you can't the G4560 is a great budget chip. It would wipe the floor with the FX-6300 or FX-4350.
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