is there a better cpu than the fx 4100 that i can get around the same price?

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im looking at upgrading my cpu and i found a bunch of used fx 4100 for around $40. i really would like to get a quad core cpu but i read some stuff online about it being a bad cpu. right now i have an i5 660 dual core clocked at 3.33gh. i dont need and amazing cpu just something that is better than mine right now but i would like to stay around the $50 price range. and yes i do know that ill have to get a new motherboard and possible ram.
 
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Unfortunately, I was unable to respond to the running thread in defense of my suggestion so I'll sum it up here and I'm not going to quote the entire thread as it's getting quite long, but here's the bottom line. I've been building computers for personal use and for my customers for over 15 years. I personally have owned an A10-5800K, A8-5600K and have sold 4 systems with the A8-5600K in 2014 and 2015. I have no and I've received no complaints, and this includes running games such as DayZ, Arma III, WoW, WoT, WoWarships, America's Army, and many others.

An A8 or an A10 won't be as powerful as say an i5-7600K for gaming, but the A8 and other parts I referenced, all together, are cheaper than the i5-7600K. And, while my suggestion...
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Any way you look at it, you'll need a new MoBo, maybe new RAM too. In the same price range as a FX4100? Did you look at a Pentium G4560? Yeah, dual core, but hyperthreaded and about $20 more ($65-70 w/o MoBo + RAM which will be required)... It will beat the FX4100 too. (AMD FX series CPUs are and were not that great. Ryzen, I believe, would require you to wait longer and build up some more funds,)
 
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If you stick to intel, you won't have to get a new mobo. But that platform is pretty outdated so you're no likely to find anything new or inexpensive from it.
Switchin to FX is just as bad, completely dead platform with no upgrade path whatsoever. Don't go near it, for you own sake...

Your best shot, if you don't want to get a new mobo, is to find a i7 860 or 870 and switch it over with your current one.

To be honest, save up a bit and switch over to Ryzen 3 or a budget Intel CPU like the G4560... everything else would be a waste of money in the long term...
 
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Depending on the rest of the specs you can get a i7 860 or 870. The 4100 would actually be worse than what you have now.
 
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yeah, LGA1156 is a dead platform (as is 1155, and 1151. LGA1150 is also practically dead.) An i7 for that socket may give some room, but not a huge amount.
The OP's thought of the FX-4100 is more lateral than a real improvement.
 
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For budget directed purchases, I tend to go towards the AMD APUs. I've seen a lot of success with them and they're able to keep the price down. I've even seen some low-mid level gaming done with them using the integrated video card.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113371
AMD A8-7600 Quad-Core 3.1 GHz at $64.99

You can use this with a lower end motherboard and basic ram to complete the system as well:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7HN5HW7416
BIOSTAR A68MD PRO at $49.42

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231645
G.SKILL NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) at $58.99 (Possibly expand to 16 GB (2 x 8 GB))

Obviously, the parts and supplier can be modified, but this is a good example of a build you could achieve while maintaining a low budget. I can personally attest for A8 and A10 processors as well as a few friends of mine.
 
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are all of the parts are compatible?
 
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They are compatible.
 
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But the a8 is only a tiny bit better than the 660. Fm2 is a dead platform and if you want to game on it apu's are terrible at it.
 
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i have a gtx 970 i just need a better cpu because mine is bottlenecking some of my games
 
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Well the only option for you would be a i7 860 or 870. However whats your current motherboard and cooler as the stock cooler that came with those i5's is not enough for those i7's.
 
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Right now I have the stock cooler and an asus motherboard. Idk the exact model.
 
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Without knowing the motherboard I can't recommend you anything.
 
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Unfortunately, I was unable to respond to the running thread in defense of my suggestion so I'll sum it up here and I'm not going to quote the entire thread as it's getting quite long, but here's the bottom line. I've been building computers for personal use and for my customers for over 15 years. I personally have owned an A10-5800K, A8-5600K and have sold 4 systems with the A8-5600K in 2014 and 2015. I have no and I've received no complaints, and this includes running games such as DayZ, Arma III, WoW, WoT, WoWarships, America's Army, and many others.

An A8 or an A10 won't be as powerful as say an i5-7600K for gaming, but the A8 and other parts I referenced, all together, are cheaper than the i5-7600K. And, while my suggestion isn't future proof (but no real computer system is with how quickly technology can change on us), it's a nice buffer between an old system that's bordering obsolete and a brand spankin' new system that'll cost $1,000+.

Now, if I'm not mistaken, the main point of this post was a budget friendly alternative to an aging dual-core processor with knowledge of having to buy new a Motherboard and RAM and the desire to have a quad-core system. I believe my response supports that (as well as allowing the OP to move their current GTX 970 along with it). And, for less than $175 total, it won't disappoint.
 
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It's and asus p7h55m-le
 
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Get aN I7 860,870 OR 880 + an aftermarket cooler like the hyper 212 evo. This is your best bet.
 
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what are your thoughts on the fx6300? i dont plan on buying one but my friend is thinking about getting one and idk anything about amd cpu's
 
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Sorry, but this is terrible advice. The FM2/FM2+ APUs just aren't very powerful and the platform has nothing interesting to upgrade to. For single-core speed, his old Nehalem i5 is actually a tad faster than the *best* FM2+ CPU. This is an expensive sidegrade at best.

OP, listen to the other posters here; if you buy an FM2+ platform CPU as an upgrade your next question will be about an upgrade to your upgrade.

 
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Yes please OP his advice is not good. He hasn't done proper research and is only talking about personal experience. Going to any fm2 chip will be a worse experience then what you have.

Also for around 200 you can have a g4560 + 8gb of ddr4 and a b250 board which completly OBLITERATES the best cpu's fm2 has to offer. Also buying an apu and then putting a gpu with it is completly defeating it's purpose of having superior integrated graphics. You end up paying much more for a useless feature.
 
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The fx series of cpu's is not worth it at all. Is he buying new?
If so make him go with ryzen or intel. Even a cheap pentium g4560 is better than the 6300.
 
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i told him to go used as they are cheaper and he wants to save as much as possible
 
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If you're recommending him buy used things that aren't superior to what he already has, he might as well spend $0 and get maximum savings.
 
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he doesnt have anything right now
 
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My recommendation was based off of not having anything. It provides a decent low to mid level gaming capabilities without having to purchase a video card while having brand new products with full warranties. While getting the G4560 would provide better CPU performance, it would also require the purchase of a video card. This means that if you are starting from nothing wanting to spend a little bit, then my suggestion is very suitable.

So, if we're shopping new, the G4560 is $81 at Amazon (no longer available from NewEgg), a B250 board at $70, and 8 GB RAM at $64. So, we're at $215. Now we'd have to add a video card on top of that. Let's go low end because of trying to keep the price low (under $50) we'd be looking at the R7 240 at $49. That puts it at about $265. That's almost $100 more than the configuration I recommended. And let's not forget having to get a new hdd, odd, psu, case, and Windows; all totaling about $175 in addition.

CPU - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NCE8T92/?tag=pcpapi-20
MoBo - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128980
RAM - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820225040
GPU - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127765

Now, if you have a video card, then yes, the G4560 would be a better option it provides a better CPU performance and the ability to upgrade to other socket 1151 CPUs at a later date. But, the determining factor is whether or not you have a video card and if not, if you were planning on buying one now.
 
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