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Hi guys i have decided to upgrade my pc after not upgrading the cpu for a good few years now.

Currently
asus z97 pro mobo
i5 4670k (overclocked on air cooling)
GTX 1080
16gb DDR3 ram

I use the pc for gaming and video editing hense why i would like to upgrade as video editing can be choppy. Can someone advise a good upgrade? Also i will be overclocking the cpu and would like to stick to intel.
I have never used liquid cooling is it beneficial and easy to set up?

Looking online i was considering
i7 4800k cpu
Asus x99 mobo
and crucial 16gb DDR4 ram
+cooler
+ A new large case

The budget is up to £1000 but dont want to spend it all if i dont need to. Any recommendations greatly appreciated here as my last set up was built with advice from this forum and i have been mope than happy with it for the past 4 years or so.
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  1. Best answer
    You won't be able to use DDR4 RAM with that CPU. If you wanna do some overclocking and sticking to intel, best option will be the 7700K and considering you have a 1080 you wouldn't want anything less than that
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£294.90 @ Amazon UK)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£64.25 @ CCL Computers)
    Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£179.99 @ Aria PC)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£125.76 @ Aria PC)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£134.99 @ Aria PC)
    Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£76.80 @ Aria PC)
    Total: £876.69
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 14:02 BST+0100

    I took the liberty to add a SSD for much better booting and loading time, you can remove it if you don't like that. But i highly recommend one!
    This build will fit perfectly your needs

    About your question related to liquid cooling, is efficient yeah. But IMHO isn't worth the hassle, flow... leaking... too much problems to worry about. The cooler i suggested is great and may be even better than most liquid cooling systems.

    Also, if i may add, which is your PSU?
  2. manddy123 said:
    You won't be able to use DDR4 RAM with that CPU. If you wanna do some overclocking and sticking to intel, best option will be the 7700K and considering you have a 1080 you wouldn't want anything less than that
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£294.90 @ Amazon UK)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£64.25 @ CCL Computers)
    Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£179.99 @ Aria PC)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£125.76 @ Aria PC)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£134.99 @ Aria PC)
    Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£76.80 @ Aria PC)
    Total: £876.69
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 14:02 BST+0100

    I took the liberty to add a SSD for much better booting and loading time, you can remove it if you don't like that. But i highly recommend that!
    This build will fit perfectly your needs
    I rate these suggestions
  3. If you already have GTX 1080, you might consider getting this:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£199.99 @ Aria PC)
    CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£101.80 @ Alza)
    Motherboard: MSI - Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£96.98 @ Ebuyer)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£116.07 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£134.99 @ Aria PC)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£84.98 @ Amazon UK)
    Total: £774.76
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 14:05 BST+0100

    You can, of course, remove or downgrade any component on this list. If you already have an SSD or an HDD, then there is no reason to buy a new one (unless you are fishing for bigger size). If you think 650W is too much, you can get 550W. A liquid cooler is preferred if you plan to overclock, as it keeps CPU in check.
    As for the case, it mainly depends on looks and preference more than functionality. So what are you interested in? Mid towers? Full towers? Specific brand? Specific colour?
  4. Hi mate,

    ehm, a 4800k desktop processor doesn't exist :P I think you mean the 4820k ivybridge-e. No Question, this is a powerful processor, but i don't recommend buying one in 2017 (as long as you don't find a very cheap one on ebay). It won't work at all with a x99 chipset mainboard. You'll need a x79 mainboard (Socket 2011, not Socket 2011v3!!!). Your mentioned ram won't work too, because x79 does only support ddr3.

    When you really need a new processor, mainboard&ram as fast as possible, grab a new 7700k which is slightly "overclockable"(plenty of them run >4,7ghz) with for example an ASUS Maximus IX APEX Z270 mainboard (E-ATX) and 16gb ddr4 ram. With german prices, this would be at ~740€. The 7700k could do your video editing easily with its 8threads.

    When you can wait until late november, intel coffelake will be released with its i7 8700k.
    This will be a rendering beast (with 12 threads like amd ryzen 1600/X) but also with high single thread performance and acceptable prices.

    So, when you can wait: pick 8700k, when you need it now: 7700k

    Cooling:
    All in one (AIO) liquid coolers are very easy to install, unlike as real custom loops. I recommend min 240mm radiator for an AIO, but ALWAYS try to get the biggest radiator which fits in your case--> when you have a case where you can mount a 360mm mm radiator , buying a 240mm radiator is just stupid :P

    Have fun!

    Twin-Frozr
  5. manddy123 said:
    You won't be able to use DDR4 RAM with that CPU. If you wanna do some overclocking and sticking to intel, best option will be the 7700K and considering you have a 1080 you wouldn't want anything less than that
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£294.90 @ Amazon UK)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£64.25 @ CCL Computers)
    Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£179.99 @ Aria PC)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£125.76 @ Aria PC)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£134.99 @ Aria PC)
    Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (£76.80 @ Aria PC)
    Total: £876.69
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 14:02 BST+0100

    I took the liberty to add a SSD for much better booting and loading time, you can remove it if you don't like that. But i highly recommend one!
    This build will fit perfectly your needs

    About your question related to liquid cooling, is efficient yeah. But IMHO isn't worth the hassle, flow... leaking... too much problems to worry about. The cooler i suggested is great and may be even better than most liquid cooling systems.

    Also, if i may add, which is your PSU?


    Thankyou for the info. I already have a 500gig and 250gig ssd which i use and a terabyte sata drive that i move things over to when storing.

    My PSU is an EVGA 750watt. i assume this is enough?

    Would i get any benefit of going for a better processor or changing to AMD cpu? trying to future proof my set up here as i prefer to only upgrade every few years
  6. andyb313 said:

    Would i get any benefit of going for a better processor or changing to AMD cpu? trying to future proof my set up here as i prefer to only upgrade every few years


    Gaming wise, the 7700K is the best you can get at the moment. And will continue to be a great chip for quite some time, no doubts.

    Ryzen offers more cores for a worse performance in gaming but they're better in workstation workloads... IF developers start to use more cores efficiently in their games, then we'll be able to see Ryzen CPUs surpassing current Intel high-end chips. But there's not telling when or if this will happen in reality.

    So, if you wanna beast rig for gaming the 7700K is your way to go. If you wish for a all-around rig the Ryzen is a good option.
  7. Twin-Frozr-1212mV said:
    Hi mate,

    ehm, a 4800k desktop processor doesn't exist :P I think you mean the 4820k ivybridge-e. No Question, this is a powerful processor, but i don't recommend buying one in 2017 (as long as you don't find a very cheap one on ebay). It won't work at all with a x99 chipset mainboard. You'll need a x79 mainboard (Socket 2011, not Socket 2011v3!!!). Your mentioned ram won't work too, because x79 does only support ddr3.

    When you really need a new processor, mainboard&ram as fast as possible, grab a new 7700k which is slightly "overclockable"(plenty of them run >4,7ghz) with for example an ASUS Maximus IX APEX Z270 mainboard (E-ATX) and 16gb ddr4 ram. With german prices, this would be at ~740€. The 7700k could do your video editing easily with its 8threads.

    When you can wait until late november, intel coffelake will be released with its i7 8700k.
    This will be a rendering beast (with 12 threads like amd ryzen 1600/X) but also with high single thread performance and acceptable prices.

    So, when you can wait: pick 8700k, when you need it now: 7700k

    Cooling:
    All in one (AIO) liquid coolers are very easy to install, unlike as real custom loops. I recommend min 240mm radiator for an AIO, but ALWAYS try to get the biggest radiator which fits in your case--> when you have a case where you can mount a 360mm mm radiator , buying a 240mm radiator is just stupid :P

    Have fun!

    Twin-Frozr


    Thankyou for the info. What sort of price tag will it come in at? i could hold off till november realistically if it will be beneficial for me
  8. manddy123 said:
    andyb313 said:

    Would i get any benefit of going for a better processor or changing to AMD cpu? trying to future proof my set up here as i prefer to only upgrade every few years


    Gaming wise, the 7700K is the best you can get at the moment. And will continue to be a great chip for quite some time, no doubts.

    Ryzen offers more cores for a worse performance in gaming but they're better in workstation workloads... IF developers start to use more cores efficiently in their games, then we'll be able to see Ryzen CPUs surpassing current Intel high-end chips. But there's not telling when or if this will happen in reality.

    So, if you wanna beast rig for gaming the 7700K is your way to go. If you wish for a all-around rig the Ryzen is a good option.


    I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.

    Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.

    Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice
  9. andyb313 said:

    I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.

    Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.

    Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice

    Yeah, absolutely. It's still a i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads!

    I love the look of these, both are Full tower(pretty damn big)
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZ6BD3/nzxt-case-caph530w1
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XFV48d/nzxt-case-casw810w1

    They're not the cheapest option, if you're looking for a more budgety one, just say the word.
  10. Hi andyb313,

    I see a ton of good suggestions here from a lot of people.

    So right now if i'm getting this right, you have the following parts which you don't need to upgrade:
    - GTX 1080
    - SSD's and a HDD
    - PSU (750W is fine probably)

    So right now you need a case, motherboard, cooler, CPU and RAM.

    I think for your Budget of £1000 (roughly $1,300 USD), an i7-7700K is the best it gets for gaming and I would recommend it for sure.

    But, following suite with manddy123, I'm also going to be that guy who recommends Ryzen and here's why. You mentioned doing a little bit of Video editing which got my attention. It seems that your 4th Generation i5 is struggling with editing but I would assume it does okay with games. If you're focus is mainly gaming, then go with the 7700k, it's by far the best there is on the consumer platform from Intel because of it's high clock speeds and great single core performance. But if you want to save a bit of money and your focus is more on editing (or you even want to do some streaming), Ryzen 7 is the superior processor with it's 8 cores and 16 threads and very good multi-core performance compared to the 7700k's puny 4 cores 8 threads.

    Gaming utilizes only up to 4 cores in most situations but it favors higher clocked cores, thus the 7700K is going to be kind here.
    Video Editing utilizes more cores and threads to render footage, thus Ryzen 7 Wins there, hands down.

    I think you've already got a lot of suggestions on other components here but I hope my ramble on CPU's helped at least a little.

    - BHogervorst
  11. bhogervorst said:
    Hi andyb313,

    I see a ton of good suggestions here from a lot of people.

    So right now if i'm getting this right, you have the following parts which you don't need to upgrade:
    - GTX 1080
    - SSD's and a HDD
    - PSU (750W is fine probably)

    So right now you need a case, motherboard, cooler, CPU and RAM.

    I think for your Budget of £1000 (roughly $1,300 USD), an i7-7700K is the best it gets for gaming and I would recommend it for sure.

    But, following suite with manddy123, I'm also going to be that guy who recommends Ryzen and here's why. You mentioned doing a little bit of Video editing which got my attention. It seems that your 4th Generation i5 is struggling with editing but I would assume it does okay with games. If you're focus is mainly gaming, then go with the 7700k, it's by far the best there is on the consumer platform from Intel because of it's high clock speeds and great single core performance. But if you want to save a bit of money and your focus is more on editing (or you even want to do some streaming), Ryzen 7 is the superior processor with it's 8 cores and 16 threads and very good multi-core performance compared to the 7700k's puny 4 cores 8 threads.

    Gaming utilizes only up to 4 cores in most situations but it favors higher clocked cores, thus the 7700K is going to be kind here.
    Video Editing utilizes more cores and threads to render footage, thus Ryzen 7 Wins there, hands down.

    I think you've already got a lot of suggestions on other components here but I hope my ramble on CPU's helped at least a little.

    - BHogervorst


    It did help a lot thankyou , the video editing i do is quite simple using adobe premiere and a little after effects. My issues are slow render times and previews can get a bit choppy if i have a few layers going on . How much worse would the Ryzen perform in gaming ? and is it the same socket?
  12. manddy123 said:
    andyb313 said:

    I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.

    Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.

    Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice

    Yeah, absolutely. It's still a i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads!

    I love the look of these, both are Full tower(pretty damn big)
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZ6BD3/nzxt-case-caph530w1
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XFV48d/nzxt-case-casw810w1

    They're not the cheapest option, if you're looking for a more budgety one, just say the word.


    Thankyou i will be pick the second white case :)

    If i decide to go with Ryzen 7 i assume i will need a different mobo?

    I have never used an AMD cpu. do they allow for much overclock?
  13. andyb313 said:
    Hi guys i have decided to upgrade my pc after not upgrading the cpu for a good few years now.

    Currently
    asus z97 pro mobo
    i5 4670k (overclocked on air cooling)
    GTX 1080
    16gb DDR3 ram

    I use the pc for gaming and video editing hense why i would like to upgrade as video editing can be choppy. Can someone advise a good upgrade? Also i will be overclocking the cpu and would like to stick to intel.
    I have never used liquid cooling is it beneficial and easy to set up?

    Looking online i was considering
    i7 4800k cpu
    Asus x99 mobo
    and crucial 16gb DDR4 ram
    +cooler
    + A new large case

    The budget is up to £1000 but dont want to spend it all if i dont need to. Any recommendations greatly appreciated here as my last set up was built with advice from this forum and i have been mope than happy with it for the past 4 years or so.


    andyb313 said:
    manddy123 said:
    andyb313 said:

    I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.

    Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.

    Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice

    Yeah, absolutely. It's still a i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads!

    I love the look of these, both are Full tower(pretty damn big)
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZ6BD3/nzxt-case-caph530w1
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XFV48d/nzxt-case-casw810w1

    They're not the cheapest option, if you're looking for a more budgety one, just say the word.


    Thankyou i will be pick the second white case :)

    If i decide to go with Ryzen 7 i assume i will need a different mobo?

    I have never used an AMD cpu. do they allow for much overclock?


    andyb313,

    Yes, while the 7700k is going to be better in games than the Ryzen 7, it's not going to be by much and probably nothing you're going to notice. Saying that Ryzen 7 is "worse" is technically true but not very relevant. It will only drop performance by 10% at most compared to the 7700k.

    And yes you are you going to need a completely different motherboard for Intel and AMD CPU's. Those sockets haven't been similar in decades.

    As for Overclocking, the 7700K is going to overclock higher but it also has half the cores/threads. Generally people who overclock 7700k's can get upwards of 4.5Ghz. I've never seen anybody with a Ryzen 7 CPU get over 4.1-ish GHz but you also have to consider that you're overclocking double the amount of cores.

    And when I say editing, I don't just mean timeline editing, I mean the whole rendering process including effects, rendering times and timeline editing.
    For Rendering, a Ryzen 7 CPU will kill a 7700k in terms of rendering times.

    I personally find the Ryzen 7 1700 to be the best in this case, even over a Ryzen 7 1800x or i7-7700k because you can just overclock the 1700 to match the performance of the more expensive Ryzen 7 1800x, saving you about $150.

    Whatever you chose is up to you, just please know what you're getting and be well educated about it. Ask if you have ANY questions! Hope this helped and wasn't too biased :)

    - BHogervorst
  14. bhogervorst said:
    andyb313 said:
    Hi guys i have decided to upgrade my pc after not upgrading the cpu for a good few years now.

    Currently
    asus z97 pro mobo
    i5 4670k (overclocked on air cooling)
    GTX 1080
    16gb DDR3 ram

    I use the pc for gaming and video editing hense why i would like to upgrade as video editing can be choppy. Can someone advise a good upgrade? Also i will be overclocking the cpu and would like to stick to intel.
    I have never used liquid cooling is it beneficial and easy to set up?

    Looking online i was considering
    i7 4800k cpu
    Asus x99 mobo
    and crucial 16gb DDR4 ram
    +cooler
    + A new large case

    The budget is up to £1000 but dont want to spend it all if i dont need to. Any recommendations greatly appreciated here as my last set up was built with advice from this forum and i have been mope than happy with it for the past 4 years or so.


    andyb313 said:
    manddy123 said:
    andyb313 said:

    I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.

    Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.

    Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice

    Yeah, absolutely. It's still a i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads!

    I love the look of these, both are Full tower(pretty damn big)
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZ6BD3/nzxt-case-caph530w1
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XFV48d/nzxt-case-casw810w1

    They're not the cheapest option, if you're looking for a more budgety one, just say the word.


    Thankyou i will be pick the second white case :)

    If i decide to go with Ryzen 7 i assume i will need a different mobo?

    I have never used an AMD cpu. do they allow for much overclock?


    andyb313,

    Yes, while the 7700k is going to be better in games than the Ryzen 7, it's not going to be by much and probably nothing you're going to notice. Saying that Ryzen 7 is "worse" is technically true but not very relevant. It will only drop performance by 10% at most compared to the 7700k.

    And yes you are you going to need a completely different motherboard for Intel and AMD CPU's. Those sockets haven't been similar in decades.

    As for Overclocking, the 7700K is going to overclock higher but it also has half the cores/threads. Generally people who overclock 7700k's can get upwards of 4.5Ghz. I've never seen anybody with a Ryzen 7 CPU get over 4.1-ish GHz but you also have to consider that you're overclocking double the amount of cores.

    And when I say editing, I don't just mean timeline editing, I mean the whole rendering process including effects, rendering times and timeline editing.
    For Rendering, a Ryzen 7 CPU will kill a 7700k in terms of rendering times.

    I personally find the Ryzen 7 1700 to be the best in this case, even over a Ryzen 7 1800x or i7-7700k because you can just overclock the 1700 to match the performance of the more expensive Ryzen 7 1800x, saving you about $150.

    Whatever you chose is up to you, just please know what you're getting and be well educated about it. Ask if you have ANY questions! Hope this helped and wasn't too biased :)

    - BHogervorst


    Thankyou for the info but now you have left me confused. i think i will go with the ryzen 7 but you say overclock the 1700 to save $ . can the 1800x not be overclocked?
  15. andyb313 said:
    bhogervorst said:
    andyb313 said:
    Hi guys i have decided to upgrade my pc after not upgrading the cpu for a good few years now.

    Currently
    asus z97 pro mobo
    i5 4670k (overclocked on air cooling)
    GTX 1080
    16gb DDR3 ram

    I use the pc for gaming and video editing hense why i would like to upgrade as video editing can be choppy. Can someone advise a good upgrade? Also i will be overclocking the cpu and would like to stick to intel.
    I have never used liquid cooling is it beneficial and easy to set up?

    Looking online i was considering
    i7 4800k cpu
    Asus x99 mobo
    and crucial 16gb DDR4 ram
    +cooler
    + A new large case

    The budget is up to £1000 but dont want to spend it all if i dont need to. Any recommendations greatly appreciated here as my last set up was built with advice from this forum and i have been mope than happy with it for the past 4 years or so.


    andyb313 said:
    manddy123 said:
    andyb313 said:

    I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.

    Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.

    Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice

    Yeah, absolutely. It's still a i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads!

    I love the look of these, both are Full tower(pretty damn big)
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZ6BD3/nzxt-case-caph530w1
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XFV48d/nzxt-case-casw810w1

    They're not the cheapest option, if you're looking for a more budgety one, just say the word.


    Thankyou i will be pick the second white case :)

    If i decide to go with Ryzen 7 i assume i will need a different mobo?

    I have never used an AMD cpu. do they allow for much overclock?


    andyb313,

    Yes, while the 7700k is going to be better in games than the Ryzen 7, it's not going to be by much and probably nothing you're going to notice. Saying that Ryzen 7 is "worse" is technically true but not very relevant. It will only drop performance by 10% at most compared to the 7700k.

    And yes you are you going to need a completely different motherboard for Intel and AMD CPU's. Those sockets haven't been similar in decades.

    As for Overclocking, the 7700K is going to overclock higher but it also has half the cores/threads. Generally people who overclock 7700k's can get upwards of 4.5Ghz. I've never seen anybody with a Ryzen 7 CPU get over 4.1-ish GHz but you also have to consider that you're overclocking double the amount of cores.

    And when I say editing, I don't just mean timeline editing, I mean the whole rendering process including effects, rendering times and timeline editing.
    For Rendering, a Ryzen 7 CPU will kill a 7700k in terms of rendering times.

    I personally find the Ryzen 7 1700 to be the best in this case, even over a Ryzen 7 1800x or i7-7700k because you can just overclock the 1700 to match the performance of the more expensive Ryzen 7 1800x, saving you about $150.

    Whatever you chose is up to you, just please know what you're getting and be well educated about it. Ask if you have ANY questions! Hope this helped and wasn't too biased :)

    - BHogervorst


    Thankyou for the info but now you have left me confused. i think i will go with the ryzen 7 but you say overclock the 1700 to save $ . can the 1800x not be overclocked?


    I'm sorry andyb313 for being confusing, I'll try to explain it a little better.

    First off, every Ryzen processor can be overclocked with the right motherboard (I will get to that in a moment).
    Regardless of whether you get a Ryzen 7 1800X or a Ryzen 7 1700, they can be overclocked to pretty much the same frequency. But here's why I said you should buy the 1700 over the 1800X, I'll compare them:

    Ryzen 7 1800X: 8 cores 16 threads, 3.6 - 4.0GHz - $499
    Ryzen 7 1700: 8 cores 16 threads, 3.3 - 3.7GHz - $330

    Basically the 1700 and 1800X are the same processor but the 1800X is already overclocked from the factory, if that makes sense. So naturally if you overclock the 1700 to 4.0GHz it will perform the same or better than the 1800X and you'll save $170 USD.

    Lastly, to backup my claim, here's a quote from an article on this subject:

    Quote:
    AMD’s most affordable Ryzen 7 8-core CPU [the 1700] has been overclocked to 4GHz on all 8 cores. With decent motheboards and cooling this $329 chip is said to be capable of outperforming the flagship $499 Ryzen 7 1800X and Intel’s $1050 i7 6900K.

    The quote is from this Article: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-overclocked-4ghz/

    Now in terms of Motherboards for overclocking, any motherboard with the X370 or B350 chipset will be able to overclock Ryzen CPU's. If you need help finding a compatible motherboard, let us know.

    I hope this helped a little more, please again let us know if you have more questions and what you eventually decide on.

    - BHogervorst
  16. bhogervorst said:
    andyb313 said:
    bhogervorst said:
    andyb313 said:
    Hi guys i have decided to upgrade my pc after not upgrading the cpu for a good few years now.

    Currently
    asus z97 pro mobo
    i5 4670k (overclocked on air cooling)
    GTX 1080
    16gb DDR3 ram

    I use the pc for gaming and video editing hense why i would like to upgrade as video editing can be choppy. Can someone advise a good upgrade? Also i will be overclocking the cpu and would like to stick to intel.
    I have never used liquid cooling is it beneficial and easy to set up?

    Looking online i was considering
    i7 4800k cpu
    Asus x99 mobo
    and crucial 16gb DDR4 ram
    +cooler
    + A new large case

    The budget is up to £1000 but dont want to spend it all if i dont need to. Any recommendations greatly appreciated here as my last set up was built with advice from this forum and i have been mope than happy with it for the past 4 years or so.


    andyb313 said:
    manddy123 said:
    andyb313 said:

    I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.

    Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.

    Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice

    Yeah, absolutely. It's still a i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads!

    I love the look of these, both are Full tower(pretty damn big)
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZ6BD3/nzxt-case-caph530w1
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XFV48d/nzxt-case-casw810w1

    They're not the cheapest option, if you're looking for a more budgety one, just say the word.


    Thankyou i will be pick the second white case :)

    If i decide to go with Ryzen 7 i assume i will need a different mobo?

    I have never used an AMD cpu. do they allow for much overclock?


    andyb313,

    Yes, while the 7700k is going to be better in games than the Ryzen 7, it's not going to be by much and probably nothing you're going to notice. Saying that Ryzen 7 is "worse" is technically true but not very relevant. It will only drop performance by 10% at most compared to the 7700k.

    And yes you are you going to need a completely different motherboard for Intel and AMD CPU's. Those sockets haven't been similar in decades.

    As for Overclocking, the 7700K is going to overclock higher but it also has half the cores/threads. Generally people who overclock 7700k's can get upwards of 4.5Ghz. I've never seen anybody with a Ryzen 7 CPU get over 4.1-ish GHz but you also have to consider that you're overclocking double the amount of cores.

    And when I say editing, I don't just mean timeline editing, I mean the whole rendering process including effects, rendering times and timeline editing.
    For Rendering, a Ryzen 7 CPU will kill a 7700k in terms of rendering times.

    I personally find the Ryzen 7 1700 to be the best in this case, even over a Ryzen 7 1800x or i7-7700k because you can just overclock the 1700 to match the performance of the more expensive Ryzen 7 1800x, saving you about $150.

    Whatever you chose is up to you, just please know what you're getting and be well educated about it. Ask if you have ANY questions! Hope this helped and wasn't too biased :)

    - BHogervorst


    Thankyou for the info but now you have left me confused. i think i will go with the ryzen 7 but you say overclock the 1700 to save $ . can the 1800x not be overclocked?


    I'm sorry andyb313 for being confusing, I'll try to explain it a little better.

    First off, every Ryzen processor can be overclocked with the right motherboard (I will get to that in a moment).
    Regardless of whether you get a Ryzen 7 1800X or a Ryzen 7 1700, they can be overclocked to pretty much the same frequency. But here's why I said you should buy the 1700 over the 1800X, I'll compare them:

    Ryzen 7 1800X: 8 cores 16 threads, 3.6 - 4.0GHz - $499
    Ryzen 7 1700: 8 cores 16 threads, 3.3 - 3.7GHz - $330

    Basically the 1700 and 1800X are the same processor but the 1800X is already overclocked from the factory, if that makes sense. So naturally if you overclock the 1700 to 4.0GHz it will perform the same or better than the 1800X and you'll save $170 USD.

    Lastly, to backup my claim, here's a quote from an article on this subject:

    Quote:
    AMD’s most affordable Ryzen 7 8-core CPU [the 1700] has been overclocked to 4GHz on all 8 cores. With decent motheboards and cooling this $329 chip is said to be capable of outperforming the flagship $499 Ryzen 7 1800X and Intel’s $1050 i7 6900K.

    The quote is from this Article: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-overclocked-4ghz/

    Now in terms of Motherboards for overclocking, any motherboard with the X370 or B350 chipset will be able to overclock Ryzen CPU's. If you need help finding a compatible motherboard, let us know.

    I hope this helped a little more, please again let us know if you have more questions and what you eventually decide on.

    - BHogervorst


    Thankyou for the info.

    Sorry you are not being confusing, I have no clue about CPU's haha.

    I have decided to go with the Ryzen 7 1700 then . Am i likely to achieve 4.0 ghz on air cooling? (if im lucky in the silicon lottery)

    can you recomment a good mobo to run with this ? and cooler? i have always used intel and never even considered AMD for a CPU.

    Many thanks for all your information. I really appreciate it!
  17. andyb313 said:
    bhogervorst said:
    andyb313 said:
    bhogervorst said:
    andyb313 said:
    Hi guys i have decided to upgrade my pc after not upgrading the cpu for a good few years now.

    Currently
    asus z97 pro mobo
    i5 4670k (overclocked on air cooling)
    GTX 1080
    16gb DDR3 ram

    I use the pc for gaming and video editing hense why i would like to upgrade as video editing can be choppy. Can someone advise a good upgrade? Also i will be overclocking the cpu and would like to stick to intel.
    I have never used liquid cooling is it beneficial and easy to set up?

    Looking online i was considering
    i7 4800k cpu
    Asus x99 mobo
    and crucial 16gb DDR4 ram
    +cooler
    + A new large case

    The budget is up to £1000 but dont want to spend it all if i dont need to. Any recommendations greatly appreciated here as my last set up was built with advice from this forum and i have been mope than happy with it for the past 4 years or so.


    andyb313 said:
    manddy123 said:
    andyb313 said:

    I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.

    Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.

    Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice

    Yeah, absolutely. It's still a i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads!

    I love the look of these, both are Full tower(pretty damn big)
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZ6BD3/nzxt-case-caph530w1
    https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XFV48d/nzxt-case-casw810w1

    They're not the cheapest option, if you're looking for a more budgety one, just say the word.


    Thankyou i will be pick the second white case :)

    If i decide to go with Ryzen 7 i assume i will need a different mobo?

    I have never used an AMD cpu. do they allow for much overclock?


    andyb313,

    Yes, while the 7700k is going to be better in games than the Ryzen 7, it's not going to be by much and probably nothing you're going to notice. Saying that Ryzen 7 is "worse" is technically true but not very relevant. It will only drop performance by 10% at most compared to the 7700k.

    And yes you are you going to need a completely different motherboard for Intel and AMD CPU's. Those sockets haven't been similar in decades.

    As for Overclocking, the 7700K is going to overclock higher but it also has half the cores/threads. Generally people who overclock 7700k's can get upwards of 4.5Ghz. I've never seen anybody with a Ryzen 7 CPU get over 4.1-ish GHz but you also have to consider that you're overclocking double the amount of cores.

    And when I say editing, I don't just mean timeline editing, I mean the whole rendering process including effects, rendering times and timeline editing.
    For Rendering, a Ryzen 7 CPU will kill a 7700k in terms of rendering times.

    I personally find the Ryzen 7 1700 to be the best in this case, even over a Ryzen 7 1800x or i7-7700k because you can just overclock the 1700 to match the performance of the more expensive Ryzen 7 1800x, saving you about $150.

    Whatever you chose is up to you, just please know what you're getting and be well educated about it. Ask if you have ANY questions! Hope this helped and wasn't too biased :)

    - BHogervorst


    Thankyou for the info but now you have left me confused. i think i will go with the ryzen 7 but you say overclock the 1700 to save $ . can the 1800x not be overclocked?


    I'm sorry andyb313 for being confusing, I'll try to explain it a little better.

    First off, every Ryzen processor can be overclocked with the right motherboard (I will get to that in a moment).
    Regardless of whether you get a Ryzen 7 1800X or a Ryzen 7 1700, they can be overclocked to pretty much the same frequency. But here's why I said you should buy the 1700 over the 1800X, I'll compare them:

    Ryzen 7 1800X: 8 cores 16 threads, 3.6 - 4.0GHz - $499
    Ryzen 7 1700: 8 cores 16 threads, 3.3 - 3.7GHz - $330

    Basically the 1700 and 1800X are the same processor but the 1800X is already overclocked from the factory, if that makes sense. So naturally if you overclock the 1700 to 4.0GHz it will perform the same or better than the 1800X and you'll save $170 USD.

    Lastly, to backup my claim, here's a quote from an article on this subject:

    Quote:
    AMD’s most affordable Ryzen 7 8-core CPU [the 1700] has been overclocked to 4GHz on all 8 cores. With decent motheboards and cooling this $329 chip is said to be capable of outperforming the flagship $499 Ryzen 7 1800X and Intel’s $1050 i7 6900K.

    The quote is from this Article: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-overclocked-4ghz/

    Now in terms of Motherboards for overclocking, any motherboard with the X370 or B350 chipset will be able to overclock Ryzen CPU's. If you need help finding a compatible motherboard, let us know.

    I hope this helped a little more, please again let us know if you have more questions and what you eventually decide on.

    - BHogervorst


    Thankyou for the info.

    Sorry you are not being confusing, I have no clue about CPU's haha.

    I have decided to go with the Ryzen 7 1700 then . Am i likely to achieve 4.0 ghz on air cooling? (if im lucky in the silicon lottery)

    can you recomment a good mobo to run with this ? and cooler? i have always used intel and never even considered AMD for a CPU.

    Many thanks for all your information. I really appreciate it!


    Hi andyb313,

    Sorry for the late reply. I'll try and address each of your questions clearly.

    Firstly, it does seem to me like some people with good chips have gotten their 1700's to 4.0GHz if i'm not mistaken.
    If you want to achieve a solid 4GHz or as high as you can go, a Corsair H100i is going to be your best bet: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Extreme-Performance-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B019EXSSBG
    I doubt that 4GHz would be achievable on the stock cooler provided by AMD or using an air cooler. Water cooling would be your best option but if you want to save a bit of cash on a cooler, you could still try overclocking on the included stock heatsink, people have said it's okay for a mild overclock.

    As for a motherboard, I think the $100-$200 range is probably going to be fine. In this range you can get a very decent motherboard.
    Here's a Nice neutral well reviewed board for under $200: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132989
    Here's a cheaper but also well reviewed board for closer to $100: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XQ46HGZ
    Those should both be fine and will both support overclocking.

    I hope this helps, if ANYTHING was confusing please let us know and somebody will help you!
    Good luck on your upgrade.

    - Bhogervorst
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