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$2000-$2500(CAD) Gaming/Modelling PC Build Suggestions

Approximate Purchase Date: This week.

Budget Range: $2000-2500 CAD I would like it to be on the lower end of that.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: All Around Machine (Mostly Gaming) Gaming, School Work, 3D Modelling, Rendering, Streaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Everything except CPU Cooler. (I have a custom loop, I am just going to upgrade to hard tubing)

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Anything in Canada (NCIX mostly (?))
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Parts Preferences: Nvidia for sure (1080/1080ti) as for the CPU, it doesn't matter to me.

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (Probably upgrade to 1440p soon)
Here's the monitor that I use now
And here's the new one I'm looking at

Additional Comments: Has to be an open case like the Thermaltake Core P3/P5, Good-looking colour scheme :), and SUPER POWERFUL.

Parts I have: 500GB SSD (I would like an M.2 SSD though), and CPU Cooler

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Old PC recently died and I came into some money. Wanna be able to play everything with ease and play some VR in the future.

Here's my submission:

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  1. Can you link your exact monitor? Depending on the refresh rate I'll have to pick Intel or AMD for the CPU.
  2. You may be able to fit a ryzen threadripper CPU in that budget with a 1080ti. For a dedicated CAD and 3d modeling machine, I would normally recommend going with an Nvidia Quadro card, but if you plan to game and stream the 1080ti will work. If you can't go threadripper go with a Ryzen 1700 and overclock.
  3. Shektron said:
    Can you link your exact monitor? Depending on the refresh rate I'll have to pick Intel or AMD for the CPU.


    Updated.
  4. Hardware Brad said:
    You may be able to fit a ryzen threadripper CPU in that budget with a 1080ti. For a dedicated CAD and 3d modeling machine, I would normally recommend going with an Nvidia Quadro card, but if you plan to game and stream the 1080ti will work. If you can't go threadripper go with a Ryzen 1700 and overclock.


    I don't do super complicated 3D models just yet, but I hope to start with them soon. I use 3D Rhino and only model things for my 3D printer so far. I have heard that the 1600x is just as good as the 1700 though isn't it? Scratch that, 1700 is way better.
  5. Hardware Brad said:
    You may be able to fit a ryzen threadripper CPU in that budget with a 1080ti. For a dedicated CAD and 3d modeling machine, I would normally recommend going with an Nvidia Quadro card, but if you plan to game and stream the 1080ti will work. If you can't go threadripper go with a Ryzen 1700 and overclock.


    Threadripper on $2500 Canadian? That ain't happening. And did you see today's review? The i7-78XX and i9 have better gaming performance than Threadripper does.
  6. Ah, missed the canadian currency part. I was thinking $999 US for the CPU and $699 US for the GPU. And yes, obviously the i7 will crush any AMD cpu on the market still in gaming. But we have other things to consider here, such as streaming, CAD, Rendering, etc where AMD cpus are the better choice in these categories for the price.
  7. For playing at 144 Hz, you might want to consider Skylake-X and Coffee Lake. More costly, a bit more <mod edit>, but worth it for the clock speed(talking only about Skylake-X, since Coffee Lake isn't released yet). Anyways, here's my recommendation for a Ryzen build:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($374.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($132.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($194.99 @ Amazon Canada)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($234.75 @ Vuugo)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card ($984.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ NCIX)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.98 @ DirectCanada)
    Total: $2247.63
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 13:04 EDT-0400

    But honestly, for 144 Hz gaming, the 1700 won't cut it. Yes, it's better for the other uses(rendering and modelling and such), but a Skylake-X build would serve you better for gaming. However, even fitting a 6-core Skylake-X with a 1080 Ti is barely done in the following build:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-7800X 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($486.25 @ shopRBC)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.98 @ Amazon Canada)
    Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X299-A ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($378.99 @ PC Canada)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($131.75 @ Vuugo)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card ($918.99 @ PC Canada)
    Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.50 @ Vuugo)
    Total: $2454.39
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 13:12 EDT-0400

    I'd still recommend Ryzen if the gaming part is a little less comparatively, or if you aren't crazy about the 144 Hz, and a few lesser FPS in a game or two here and there isn't a big deal for you. But if you do love that 144 FPS mark, then even the 7700K would be better than the 1700, though it will be much worse in the other uses.
  8. Shektron said:
    For playing at 144 Hz, you might want to consider Skylake-X and Coffee Lake. More costly, a bit more <mod edit>, but worth it for the clock speed(talking only about Skylake-X, since Coffee Lake isn't released yet). Anyways, here's my recommendation for a Ryzen build:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($374.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($132.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($194.99 @ Amazon Canada)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($234.75 @ Vuugo)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card ($984.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ NCIX)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.98 @ DirectCanada)
    Total: $2247.63
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 13:04 EDT-0400

    But honestly, for 144 Hz gaming, the 1700 won't cut it. Yes, it's better for the other uses(rendering and modelling and such), but a Skylake-X build would serve you better for gaming. However, even fitting a 6-core Skylake-X with a 1080 Ti is barely done in the following build:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-7800X 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($486.25 @ shopRBC)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.98 @ Amazon Canada)
    Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X299-A ATX LGA2066 Motherboard ($378.99 @ PC Canada)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($131.75 @ Vuugo)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card ($918.99 @ PC Canada)
    Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.50 @ Vuugo)
    Total: $2454.39
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 13:12 EDT-0400

    I'd still recommend Ryzen if the gaming part is a little less comparatively, or if you aren't crazy about the 144 Hz, and a few lesser FPS in a game or two here and there isn't a big deal for you. But if you do love that 144 FPS mark, then even the 7700K would be better than the 1700, though it will be much worse in the other uses.


    yeah, I don't really mind not having super high fps like that in every game. I think I will probably go with the 1600x and the 1080ti, to keep price down a bit. That Skylake-X option is really nice though. I never even bothered to look at Skylake-X because I thought it was way more expensive.

    If I do get Skylake-X it'll be with a 1080 I think. If I can get a little more cash I'll get the 1080ti and I will probably be set for a few years... :D
  9. Hardware Brad said:
    Ah, missed the canadian currency part. I was thinking $999 US for the CPU and $699 US for the GPU. And yes, obviously the i7 will crush any AMD cpu on the market still in gaming. But we have other things to consider here, such as streaming, CAD, Rendering, etc where AMD cpus are the better choice in these categories for the price.


    Yeah it's a pretty easy mistake to make, I've done that myself. But the Intel CPUs are still pretty adequate in all the areas that the OP is requesting. More cores doesn't always translate to more performance. We saw that today with the Threadripper reviews.
  10. g-unit1111 said:
    Hardware Brad said:
    Ah, missed the canadian currency part. I was thinking $999 US for the CPU and $699 US for the GPU. And yes, obviously the i7 will crush any AMD cpu on the market still in gaming. But we have other things to consider here, such as streaming, CAD, Rendering, etc where AMD cpus are the better choice in these categories for the price.


    Yeah it's a pretty easy mistake to make, I've done that myself. But the Intel CPUs are still pretty adequate in all the areas that the OP is requesting. More cores doesn't always translate to more performance. We saw that today with the Threadripper reviews.


    Yeah, I wouldn't say that Threadripper lived up to the hype.
  11. Nourish said:
    Yeah, I wouldn't say that Threadripper lived up to the hype.


    In some areas it does. Mainly for workstation purposes. But in gaming it definitely doesn't.
  12. Keep in mind that the Threadripper is not intended for gamers and never was (not saying that you can't game on it, there are just better options). That would be like expecting Intel's Xeons to be good at gaming. Again, the reason I made this recommendation was for the CAD and Rendering workload and also streaming, which is all benefit from more cores and threads. The only thing that he's doing that would not utilize all of threadrippers cores would be gaming. Going with an i7-7700k would not be a good choice for streaming, Ryzen is the best choice all around at this point, even if its not threadripper. Especially for the money.
  13. Best answer
    I still do not understand the whole Ryzen not good for 144hz gaming thing. That is more dependent on GPU than anything else, especially when we are talking 1440p or higher resolutions that are far more GPU dependent than CPU.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon Canada)
    CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - A40 ULTIMATE 83.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ DirectCanada)
    Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Killer SLI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($179.50 @ Vuugo)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($169.99 @ Amazon Canada)
    Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($198.99 @ PC Canada)
    Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.75 @ shopRBC)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card ($918.99 @ PC Canada)
    Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre PWM 51.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($14.99 @ Memory Express)
    Total: $2152.17
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 16:47 EDT-0400
  14. logainofhades said:
    I still do not understand the whole Ryzen not good for 144hz gaming thing. That is more dependent on GPU than anything else, especially when we are talking 1440p or higher resolutions that are far more GPU dependent than CPU.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Amazon Canada)
    CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - A40 ULTIMATE 83.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($129.99 @ DirectCanada)
    Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Killer SLI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($179.50 @ Vuugo)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($169.99 @ Amazon Canada)
    Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($198.99 @ PC Canada)
    Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.75 @ shopRBC)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card ($918.99 @ PC Canada)
    Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
    Case Fan: BitFenix - Spectre PWM 51.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($14.99 @ Memory Express)
    Total: $2152.17
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 16:47 EDT-0400


    This kind of build is more what I am leaning towards. A bit cheaper for almost the same performance. Thanks guys! Will tell you what I end up buying.
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