fx8320 + gtx 1060

Gobolino · Aug 11, 2017

Hi!.

Full story:
These *were* my specs:
FX-8320 3.5Ghz
MSI R9 270 2Gb
8 Gb RAM
Windows 7
MB: MSI 970A-G46
BATTLEFIELD 1 FPS: ~40~50, but mostly constant.

My GPU died (the fans weren't working well at all).
So I changed it for a GTX 1060 Gaming X 6Gb.

Went to play Battlefield 1.... it's... imposible....!
ULTRA / HIGH / MEDIUM / LOW settings = ~60 FPS but at some point it downs to even ~12 or ~19 FPS.

Used MSI Gaming APP, tried Gaming Mode... no difference... tried OC Mode, no difference....

Should I overclock the FX8320?.... ='(, I'm kinda frustrated because with a very low range graphic cards I was able to play well the game... and I thought I was "upgrading" when, in the practical sense, I'm actually worst than before. =(

Any help?. =''(

[Note: Something similar it's happening in Fallout 4 too]

pete_101 · Aug 11, 2017

You shouldn't be seeing lower frame rates, the drivers can't be installed properly. Did you remove the old drivers? My suggestion would be to use DDU to remove all the drivers, and then try installing the driver again for the 1060.
Download first, then run in safemode http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Gobolino · Aug 11, 2017

I used DDU to... I don't remember what the text said... "Remove and turn off the computer (to be used when changing devices) or something like that, used it in safe mode.
once it was completed, it turned off the PC, then I changed the cards and then downloaded and installed the latests NVIDIA drivers for that card.
=(

SkyBill40 · Aug 11, 2017

Something isn't right with your reinstall. I used to have a 660Ti and could play BF1 on at least medium. I now have a 1080 and run an OC'd 8350. You should be doing just fine with that setup.

maxalge · Aug 11, 2017

Gobolino :

sounds like cpu thermal throttling, monitor cpu temps while playing

amd cpu's throttle at around 60 degrees

Gobolino · Aug 11, 2017

I have a watercooling for the CPU, it *NEVER* (EVER) gets higher than 59°C. =(

maxalge · Aug 11, 2017

Gobolino :

install amd overdrive and monitor your thermal margins

if you go into negative numbers you are throttling

that motherboard seems weak as well, could also be throttling due to lack of proper VRM cooling

you can test this by opening the pc case and putting a fan near the mobo blowing air directly on it

if you dont get drops when doing this then its the mobo having inadequate cooling

Gobolino · Aug 11, 2017

[Update]: This is happening when playing Fallout 4 for example.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1107335540

CPU t° = 48°C
CPU usage = 56 %
GPU t° = 60°C
FPS = 37.
=(

Gobolino · Aug 11, 2017

This is the log section in Overdrive after playing a bit of Amiens in BF1:

https://ibb.co/kVOcxF

maxalge · Aug 11, 2017

Gobolino :

yeah stock 8320 will do that, time to get 4.5ghz + if possible

also turn down shadow distance to medium, its a cpu killer in that game

Gobolino · Aug 11, 2017

[Another update]
I followed this guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZPy6xMhtso

To overclock it to 4.2 Ghz.

Now, played Fallout 4 and it went pretty well and normal, FPS around the 55~60 mark. (it has fixed 60 max) and no noticeable downs in Boston.

Ok, tried BF1 this time and while it started well, THIS happened!:
https://ibb.co/kVCOMa

THE EXACT moment I noticed a drop in FPS, I saw the temp getting over the 150°C and quickly exit the game, once I exit, the temp went down as the picture.

So, the bad thing is that, no matter how I try, I can't play in the GTX 1060 *as good* as I played in the R9 270. =(

[Update 2]

Went for the settings, put everything in medium except for the "post... " that I put in low, and changed the last one to SSAO.
Reboot and used the OC genie II to overclock "more safely" the CPU and RAM.
*CLOSED* MSI Afterburner. (Problem is that I don't know now the temps nor the FPS).

Played *HALF* of a match in BF1 and it did wonderful, not a single FPS dip.... until a whole crash. =(
with BF1.exe blaming this one: nvwgf2umx.dll

Will try in clock... now I'm kinda afraid that the CPU is dying... or the RAM... or the MB... or the PSU... or...
(I doubt the GPU as it has just 3 days of use).

maxalge · Aug 12, 2017

Gobolino :

[Another update]
I followed this guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZPy6xMhtso

To overclock it to 4.2 Ghz.

Now, played Fallout 4 and it went pretty well and normal, FPS around the 55~60 mark. (it has fixed 60 max) and no noticeable downs in Boston.

Ok, tried BF1 this time and while it started well, THIS happened!:
https://ibb.co/kVCOMa

THE EXACT moment I noticed a drop in FPS, I saw the temp getting over the 150°C and quickly exit the game, once I exit, the temp went down as the picture.

So, the bad thing is that, no matter how I try, I can't play in the GTX 1060 *as good* as I played in the R9 270. =(

[Update 2]

Went for the settings, put everything in medium except for the "post... " that I put in low, and changed the last one to SSAO.
Reboot and used the OC genie II to overclock "more safely" the CPU and RAM.
*CLOSED* MSI Afterburner. (Problem is that I don't know now the temps nor the FPS).

Played *HALF* of a match in BF1 and it did wonderful, not a single FPS dip.... until a whole crash. =(
with BF1.exe blaming this one: nvwgf2umx.dll

Will try in clock... now I'm kinda afraid that the CPU is dying... or the RAM... or the MB... or the PSU... or...
(I doubt the GPU as it has just 3 days of use).

looks like the cpu cooling is not good enough

Gobolino · Aug 12, 2017

Using this one:
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002064

[Update]: I had a match yesterday and I turned off the gpu restriction in BF1 options.... did "a bit well" (mostly 60 FPS and some minor drops to 42 at most....

STUPID QUESTION: *if* a have a HIGH ping (aka: 170ms), that could give me those drops to 42?. (we're clear that the drops to 12 are CPU related... somehow... and temp related... somehow, I'm just wondering about those tiny drops).

[Update #2]
I also noticed that the BACK fan (the white one looking directly at inside) was NOT working. So I corrected it (somehow the cable was disconnected) and now it works fine....
NOW...THAT fan somehow pulls also cold air "into" (I mean, if I put my hand on it, I sense cold air)... and that one ends up directly on this thing:
https://www.msi.com/asset/resize/image/global/product/five_pictures2_2501_20140408171528.png62405b38c58fe0f07fcef2367d8a9ba1/600.png
(The one that says MSI right at the center)... so I hope it... couuuuld???... cold it a bit. (????).

SkyBill40 · Nov 4, 2017

If it's a rear fan... that would be an exhaust. It shouldn't be doing anything but pulling air out of the case and pushing it out the back.

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