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My system spec
ASROCK 990FX EXTREME3
CPU- AMD FX 8320
Patrio Viper 3 8GM RAM
GPU GTX 1050ti
samsung evo 850 1TB

IF i upgrade to a 1060 will my system bottleneck?
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  1. There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
    If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
    somehow lower your performance or FPS.
    A better term might be limiting factor.
    That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
    less effective.

    What you really want to know is if a stronger graphics card will do you good.

    Here is my canned approach to that question:

    Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
    Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
    Multiplayer with many participants tend to like many threads.

    You need to find out which.
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

    a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
    If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
    If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

    b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
    Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
    This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
    Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

    You should also experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
    You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
    This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
    If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.


    It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
    and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    My guess is that you will be OK, but you may be disappointed since the GTX1060 is not that big of a jump in capability.
    Reply to geofelt
  2. bluntedd said:
    My system spec
    ASROCK 990FX EXTREME3
    CPU- AMD FX 8320
    Patrio Viper 3 8GM RAM
    GPU GTX 1050ti
    samsung evo 850 1TB

    IF i upgrade to a 1060 will my system bottleneck?


    A bit more simplified explanation of geofelts comment.

    Your cpu is old and weak so in cpu intensive games you will be held back. How much depends on the game.
    Reply to jaslion
  3. geofelt said:
    There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
    If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
    somehow lower your performance or FPS.
    A better term might be limiting factor.
    That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
    less effective.

    What you really want to know is if a stronger graphics card will do you good.

    Here is my canned approach to that question:

    Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
    Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
    Multiplayer with many participants tend to like many threads.

    You need to find out which.
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

    a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
    If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
    If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

    b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
    Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
    This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
    Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

    You should also experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
    You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
    This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
    If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.


    It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
    and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    My guess is that you will be OK, but you may be disappointed since the GTX1060 is not that big of a jump in capability.


    ok so just to clarify, will option B improve gaming performance?
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  4. geofelt said:
    There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
    If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
    somehow lower your performance or FPS.
    A better term might be limiting factor.
    That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
    less effective.

    What you really want to know is if a stronger graphics card will do you good.

    Here is my canned approach to that question:

    Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
    Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
    Multiplayer with many participants tend to like many threads.

    You need to find out which.
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

    a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
    If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
    If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

    b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
    Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
    This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
    Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

    You should also experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
    You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
    This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
    If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.


    It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
    and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    My guess is that you will be OK, but you may be disappointed since the GTX1060 is not that big of a jump in capability.



    Also, when experimenting with removing cores, will this improve my gaming experience as well? or is it just to test whether or not my system can run without the cores. please clarify i'm not newbie but a bit more explanation is necessary lol
    Reply to bluntedd
  5. bluntedd said:
    geofelt said:
    There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
    If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
    somehow lower your performance or FPS.
    A better term might be limiting factor.
    That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
    less effective.

    What you really want to know is if a stronger graphics card will do you good.

    Here is my canned approach to that question:

    Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
    Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
    Multiplayer with many participants tend to like many threads.

    You need to find out which.
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

    a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
    If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
    If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

    b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
    Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
    This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
    Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

    You should also experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
    You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
    This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
    If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.


    It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
    and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    My guess is that you will be OK, but you may be disappointed since the GTX1060 is not that big of a jump in capability.



    Also, when experimenting with removing cores, will this improve my gaming experience as well? or is it just to test whether or not my system can run without the cores. please clarify i'm not newbie but a bit more explanation is necessary lol


    He is telling you to slow down your cpu to see if the games you play still run the same. If not them your cpu will most likely bottleneck a better card.
    Reply to jaslion
  6. Best answer
    If your games are graphics limited, slowing down your cpu should not have much of an effect, making a graphics card a more important upgrade than a cpu.

    The purpose of the removing threads experiment is to see how important many threads are to your games.
    If, for example, you perform as well with 4 threads as 8, or nearly so, then spending extra on a 8 thread processor vs. 4 or 6 is not worth it.
    Reply to geofelt
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