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patricklarsen2000

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I'm going to buy a new PC my old PC with a gtx 1060 and i5 6500 was stuttering and had drops all the time no matter what game i played so i thought it was time for a new PC

Gtx 1080 8gb ROG strix
I7 7700k
32GB RAM 3000 speed
1 SSD 500gb
4TB Hard Drive
Corsair TX650M 80plus gold PSU
Asus Z270-P Prime
Corsair H60 120mm Hydro liquid cooler

Won't change anything on this list

I know that 1080 is overkill for 1080p gaming i'll get a new screen maybe next year
But some people say that this setup will Bottleneck in games like Battlefield 1 in 1080p Ultra Settings is it true or not will i be able to run Battlefield 1 or any games in 1080p without stutters or fps drops?
 
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This will have no bottlenecks and yeah you are making an overkill setup. That build is for 1440p 144hz gaming. Why 32gb RAM? Also, get a better CPU cooler. The 7700k runs hot. Also, why not Asus Z270-A? (little better)

My 7700k + 980ti (about like a gtx 1070), runs BF1 at 1440p Ultra with 90fps average in multiplayer.
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This will have no bottlenecks and yeah you are making an overkill setup. That build is for 1440p 144hz gaming. Why 32gb RAM? Also, get a better CPU cooler. The 7700k runs hot. Also, why not Asus Z270-A? (little better)

My 7700k + 980ti (about like a gtx 1070), runs BF1 at 1440p Ultra with 90fps average in multiplayer.
 
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Thank you for taking your time to help me

It's good that it won't bottleneck. Getting 32 ram just to be 100% i won't run out of RAM I know that maybe my Cooler isn't the best but i think that the CPU will still be cool enough to not get overheated and it would help me a little if you would tell me why i should upgrade to a Z270-A
 
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Well i should have said i will change it if it will Bottleneck but it doesn't seem like it will bottleneck i just want to be 100% sure that it won't when gaming in 1080p
 
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"gtx 1060 and i5 6500 was stuttering and had drops all the time not matter what game i played"
All games? Really? If you are playing on 1080p, it seems something is not right in your system.
i5 6500 + GTX1060 is still quite powerful for gaming.
If you see stutters only on BF1, this game is running better on I7.

"it was time for a new PC" and "I7 7700k"
You do not really need a complete new PC, if you want to have i7 7700k.
Theoretically, you can even simply put that I7 7700k into your current mobo with only perhaps BIOS update.
You can also simply replace GTX1060 with a 1080 or something. No need to replace the whole PC.

What I see here is just...you want a new system and are trying to find reasons ^o^
 
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I don't think that will help because i have tried to clean install didn't help tried to install my games on a faster drive didn't help so i think my PC is dying which sucks because i really liked my old PC the drops and stutter were insane even in games like CSGO went from 200 fps to 30 and then 40 and then it stayed at 55 all the time it was really weird have never seen anything like that
 
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When did the stutters began?
Things, which can never be fixed by re-installing Windows...
Did you already check how the cpu and gpu temps?
GPU settings are set to performance and not to energy saving.
etc. etc.

CS:GO's fps is quite special, I would ask the people on CS:GO forum to diagnose the frame drops.
 
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Even 16gb RAM is mostly overkill but future proof. 32gb is for professionals.
Why A over P? A his designed better for overclocking.
 
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It began 2 days ago first i was ok with few stutters in Battlefield 1 but then it became soooo bad that it was super unplayable every game i have tested are really unplayable so many drops and so many stutters and my temps were fine when idle only 40c which should be good when idle but i don't really know much about temps

But this post was not really about my stutters or drops it was about will a i7 7700k and Gtx 1080 bottleneck when gaming in 1080p but i really really appreciate that you want to help
 
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i'll have to disagree with you most high end games like Battlefield 1 and Battlefront needs 16gb Ram i know it doesn't mean that the game will use that much RAM but i'll go with 32 just to be sure that in like 2-3 years that i will have enough ram my old PC gtx 1060 i5 6500 8gb ram had lots of stutters in The Division then i bought 8gb more and the stutters were gone so i don't want to go through that problem again in the future and i don't really need overclocking i really just hate that there is a chance that my PC could get ruined if i somehow Overclock it wrong
 
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If it all out of blue sky only since 2 days, you do not really have to buy a new rig.
1. Check during games (about 20-30 mins in game) that your CPU and GPU temps are not high. Post here, what you see.
2. In NVidia control panel, set the setting to full performance and not power saving. Perhaps a driver update reset this part.
3. In energy options settings, sett all performance related options to full performance, especially about the processor frequency limits, etc. You are not running a PC not laptop, just set those to full power. Due to unknown reasons, my PC was set to green energy mode after certain Win10 updates, I had to repair the settings. Perhaps you got this too.

These are the first ideas, which came up in my mind. If others have other things, just post to help!

Adding more RAM to 16GB, if you have only 8GB, is also a good idea but I do not really think this the cause, since you have problems only since several days without clear reasons.
 
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Tried everything you said doesn't work and no matter what settings i choose i get the same fps it's really annoying and plus games are getting bigger and bigger so fast i think it's a good idea to get a new PC so i'm ready for other games because in the end we don't know if the next Battlefield or Call of Duty will need something like a gtx 1080 ti 32gb ram i know it is very unlikely but someday it will happen and i want to be ready for that time i really appreciate your help i hope i can fix it so i can give my old PC to my little brother because his broke a 1 week ago and i know you are trying to help but this post wasn't really about my old PC it was about will a gtx 1080 and i7 7700k bottleneck when gaming in 1080p but i still really appreciate that you are helping me
 
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i have had the old PC for over a year now it worked so freaking well but then out of the blue it started to run like shit i just want to get more people's opinion on will gtx 1080 and i7 7700k bottleneck in 1080p i know it won't in 1440p or 4k but i have seen lots of people saying either it's overkill which i know it is but also that games like Battlefield 1 will bottleneck in 1080p with a gtx 1080 and i7 7700k i just want to be 100% sure before i buy a new PC because have used 3 days to fix my old pc i have done nothing but trying to fix it

Have searched a lot on the internet to find an answer but when i see other people asking the same question as i do i only see people say oh dude that build is overkill even though the person didn't ask is this build overkill they asked will it bottleneck in 1080p so i tried to get an answer myself and i'm glad that envy14tpe said it wasn't going to bottleneck in 1080p
 
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and..if you plan to get a new PC while keeping the older one, you still need to debug and find out what went wrong.

ah...Coffee lake is on the door step too. Intel bragged about it to 30% faster than the previous generation. If you really want a new rig, perhaps you can also wait until the new procs are up.
You can also consider Ryzen as alternative.
 
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I don't know anything about AMD Ryzen CPU other than they're powerful but i just need the best and i7 7700k is better but it also gets very very hot if you overclock it so much that Intel is saying that you shouldn't Overclock a i7 7700k which is dumb since i7 7700k is for overclocking if people bought it and didn't want overclock they should have bought a i7 7700 but i'll take a look at the Ryzen CPU to see if i maybe should buy a Ryzen CPU only buying the i7 7700k instead of the i7 7700 because maybe in the future i want to try and overclock
 
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I7 7700k can be quite good overclock, you might need to behead it due to the bad TIM.

Ryzen 7 have the better price/performance value plus have more real physical cores but I7 7700k is the better one in term of single core performance.

Like said, Intel's Coffee Lake will be announced next week. You might wanna check that out first.
 
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Coffee Lake what a weird code name but yeah i will buy my new PC in 3 weeks so i will check those CPU's out i hope they're worth it a better CPU than i7 7700k would be nice for futureproofing
 
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Ryzen might be powerful but i still know more about Nvidia and Intel than AMD so it's better to buy something you know about the only reason why i asked if gtx 1080 and i7 7700k bottleneck in 1080p is because people keep saying that it will don't know if it is a trick to make people buy a new screen or maybe they're just misinformed

Ps not a Intel Fanboy or Nvidia fanboy i just like Nvidia better than AMD because of Geforce Experience i think that program is way better than the program from AMD and i really like that AMD finally have Graphics cards that can rival Nvidia in power it makes it more easy to find a good cheap Graphics card which i know AMD have lots of

But i do know from benchmarks that it seems that in 1080p the 1080ti and i7 7700k will bottleneck in Battlefield 1 because in 1080p it seems like it can't use its full power the 1080ti was the first card i wanted to buy but because of lots of benchmarks i won't i'll go with 1080 i just want to play Battlefield 1 and new games in 1080p without stutter before i get a screen that can use the power from 1080 it's weird why 1080 can play Battlefield 1 in 1080p without stutter but gtx 1080ti can't when it's more powerful but i'll check Ryzen out and when those "Coffee Lake" comes out i'll check them out aswell

Ps have nothing against AMD i really like that they have really good GPU for a cheap price when i bought my old PC i was choosing between gtx 1060 and rx 480 i chose gtx 1060 only because of Geforce experience they both seem somewhat equal in terms of gaming power
 
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I have no idea why/where you are hearing that the 1080ti + 7700k will bottleneck in 1080p BF1. I have 980ti + 770k and at 1440p I don't have bottleneck. The 1080ti + 7700k will not hinder game play at all at 1080p. That's just crazy. 1080ti + 7700k in BF1 would hit 144fps at 1080p and be buttery smooth.

Nvidia has dominated the higher end mkt for over a year (AMD had nothing to compete with 1070, 1080, 1080ti, Titan xP)...AMD finally has a 1070 competitor as of this past week. It's good to see competition restoring. Now if FreeSync can improve (right now the range is limiting) and we can pair that with a higher end AMD gpu then people will shift towards AMD builds (FreeSync is $200 cheaper than Gsync). Until then...high end gaming is Nvidia.
 
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For PC master race radicals, 1-5 fps difference, even if the average was still e.g. 140 fps, it means that there is already a huge unacceptable bottleneck happening, regardless if what they see is actually still within margin of errors.
If the poster is reading too much articles from those kind of people, it is no wonder.

BTW, I am still happy with my E3-1231V3+GTX1080+16GB RAM+XB270HU for gaming. I am currently however looking at those Ryzen 7 due to their extra physical cores for my work. I have not made my decision to push the button yet tho'.
 
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I do appreciate extra fps. That's why I went with the i7 over the i5. My build is for gaming, nothing else intensive. By having such a solid CPU I know my fps is only limited based on my GPU. Keeping the 980ti into my new build, I went from a build with a 2500k @4.4GHz to a 7700k @4.5GHz, and saw my BF1 average move from 75fps to 90fps. That 15fps was appreciated. I know its not only the CPU but I was able to get my GPU back to 100% usage in BF1. Before the update my 980ti wasn't hitting 100% as the CPU was maxing out instead.

The new Ryzen 7 1700 is awesome. It's better than the i7 in almost every way, but not gaming. The i7 retains a lead still.
 
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I know my setup is already overkill but should then upgrade to 1080ti for more futureproofing i will get a 4k monitor with high Refresh rate or is it just a stupid thing to do
 
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