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Is a 10% bottleneck bad ?
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List your specs, 10% doesn't seem like much so I don't think you'd have an issue. Also how do you figure its 10%? By FPS?
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derekullo
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For comparison your cpu scores at 4584
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A8-6500B+APU
For something more modern like the i5-6600 it scores at 7834, about double.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-6600+%40+3.30GHz&id=2594
But this is all relative to the game you play and the resolution and detail settings the game is run at.
Even with your setup most any game should be playable at some resolution, be it 1280x720, thereby removing the "bottleneck".
Bottlenecks aren't a bad thing and in fact any computer will have some kind of bottleneck that enforces a maximum fps.
Even an i9-7900X with a Titan Xp and 32 gigabytes of DDR4-3000 ram running Battlefield 1 at 1920x1080p will have a "bottleneck".
The bottleneck in this case will most likely be the cpu, but that's ok due to the bottleneck occurring at 200+ fps
If you raise the resolution to 4k in that hypothetical situation then the "bottleneck" shifts from the cpu to the gpu.
Giving you fps similiar to the benchmarking Tom's did earlier this year.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-1-directx-12-benchmark,5017-6.html
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A8-6500B+APU
For something more modern like the i5-6600 it scores at 7834, about double.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-6600+%40+3.30GHz&id=2594
But this is all relative to the game you play and the resolution and detail settings the game is run at.
Even with your setup most any game should be playable at some resolution, be it 1280x720, thereby removing the "bottleneck".
Bottlenecks aren't a bad thing and in fact any computer will have some kind of bottleneck that enforces a maximum fps.
Even an i9-7900X with a Titan Xp and 32 gigabytes of DDR4-3000 ram running Battlefield 1 at 1920x1080p will have a "bottleneck".
The bottleneck in this case will most likely be the cpu, but that's ok due to the bottleneck occurring at 200+ fps
If you raise the resolution to 4k in that hypothetical situation then the "bottleneck" shifts from the cpu to the gpu.
Giving you fps similiar to the benchmarking Tom's did earlier this year.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-1-directx-12-benchmark,5017-6.html
geofelt
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There is no such thing as "bottlenecking"
If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
somehow lower your performance or FPS.
A better term might be limiting factor.
That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
less effective.
For the OP, the A8-6500B APU is a relatively weak processor, but excellent integrated graphics.
There are no good processor upgrades without changing out the motherboard.
And, adding even stronger graphics cards will become less effective, depending on the game.
Do not worry much about bottlenecking.
If you find that a game is not playable with the resolution and options you want, it is time to research options.
Until then... enjoy what you have.
If, by that, you mean that upgrading a cpu or graphics card can
somehow lower your performance or FPS.
A better term might be limiting factor.
That is where adding more cpu or gpu becomes increasingly
less effective.
For the OP, the A8-6500B APU is a relatively weak processor, but excellent integrated graphics.
There are no good processor upgrades without changing out the motherboard.
And, adding even stronger graphics cards will become less effective, depending on the game.
Do not worry much about bottlenecking.
If you find that a game is not playable with the resolution and options you want, it is time to research options.
Until then... enjoy what you have.
That may be true if you're GPU-bound, but not so much CPU-bound. Playing games at a lower resolution would exaggerate the effects of a CPU bottleneck, not solve them. By and large most settings will have little effect on CPU usage. So if you're not getting your desired FPS in a game because of your CPU, you don't have many options other than to get a better CPU.
derekullo
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A bottleneck is indeed as you describe it, a limiting factor.
A Geforce 1080 Ti won't give the fps you want if your cpu is an i7-860 (the limiting factor / bottleneck).
Reversed, an i7-7700k won't give you the fps you want if paired with a Geforce 660 (the limiting factor / bottleneck).
Upgrading the i7-860 or the Geforce 660 in either case would drastically improve the fps of most any game.
This upgrade would, in fact ,be an extremely effective upgrade, although upgrading the i7-860 would require a new motherboard and ram, still a highly noticeable upgrade.
But as you nearly mentioned, once you are at a modern chip like an i5-7600 or Geforce 1060 you can no longer attain cheap multi-digit fps gains by replacing a single component due to the bottleneck not being a single component anymore and instead spread to multiple components of the computer.
At this point if you still want higher fps you need to "do research" and figure out which part is holding you back the most, be it cpu (Upgrade to an i7-7700k), gpu (Upgrade to a Geforce 1080 Ti), not enough system ram (Upgrade to 16 gigabytes although 12 gigabytes is perfectly fine for most situations).
It sounds simple in theory but the price of the components goes up really fast when you get to that last paragraph.
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