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JCorprew

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So I have decided to add a custom loop for water cooling rather than use my AIO (corsair H60). Now my question to the community is what are some of the better blocks, reservoir, pump or res/pump combo, had hard pipes. Now I know bends will be a pain to perfect for my design (pictures attached). But I don't mind burning through a few pipes to get it just right. Now price is not an issue, but still plays a factor in my decisions on what to buy. I do not wish to exceed $300 preferably under $200. But if needed I will spend slightly over.

Now things to remember this system is "case less" in respects to the fact that it is not in a case, this is a test bench design turned into open case system which will be place on my desk. Opinion from any custom loop experts who work with hard tubing for their loops.

So basically what I am looking for are answers to , best parts, design suggestions, and overall aesthetics (link pics of design created in Tinkercad)

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I use a pastel color - this is Mayhems extreme white (concentrate).

I use those...
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Ive looked at all the EK WC custom loops, but would I be able to replace these with PETG or Arcylic hard tubes. oh I forgot to say the tubes have to be white, no exception on color for this build.
 
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not if im using clear liquid and colored tubes, then no it wont be determined by the liquid. Liquid that is colored is a choice and the colors I want would require me to use pastel based colors for white or black, then when I replace I have to recolor or do a premix, and pastel can cause clogging and settling of sediments for the coloring agent.
 
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King Dranzer

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Yes you can go for PETG and Acrylic. Bit of hard work but yes you can do that. Check the below link
https://www.primochill.com/products/primochill-1-2in-rigid-petg-tube-6-x-30in-white

One recommendation is that if you are gonna use this setup for Test Bench I would recommend Soft tubing as regular swap of CPU with Hard tubing is pain and not recommended. Go for hard tubing only if you plan on not touching the CPU you throw in there for at-least 2-Yrs.
 
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well it was originally a test no longer as I like the setup as is and I'm not testing anything for some time after so I thought why not make this thing sexy. Its an acrylic bench I will be making myself... well remaking. And I don't plan on removing the CPU until it has to be removed.
 
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best GPU blocks are EK or Bitspower.
Best CPU blocks are Aqua Computer cryos kuplex next (optionally with VISION and/or VARIO)
Best pump is D5 - maker not important as they come from same factory.
Best rads are HWLabs (i find the alphacool the most convenient ones)
Best D5 top is Singularity Computers
I recommend to use long tube reservoirs (10cm or more)

A decent loop for CPU only will be over 300$
that list above (even without GPU block) with tubing and fittings will be even more.

just remember, the investment in good part will set you for many years. my oldest loop is over decade old and is still working perfectly fine.
 
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Question about your loop. Are you using a white dye with your coolant to achieve that milky color? do you have a preference for fittings and such that you would use with
XSPC PETG Tubing 10mm ID, 14mm OD, 1.0m , Clear,

For fittings Im leaning towards these
XSPC G1/4" to 10mm ID, 14mm OD PETG Triple Seal Fitting, Matte Black

so i decided to go with clear PETG or acrylic tubing. so with tat I have decided to one a few things
Mayhem premix
and their UV DYE

amazon compiled list of items for my loop
LIIIIISSSTT
 
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The price is going up to 380$ trust me the components you opted are not worth it. Get EK loop it will have better quality and easy compatibility.

Check the below list:
TEMP_LOOP.jpg


Go for it.
 
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And the choice of coolants you have is big mistake. That Aurora Silver is a no go for consumer usage. It is only suitable for display builds which get pulled off in few days. That coolant is pain as the particles in it will damage the PUMP and will settle and stick in all closed components which is bad.

Go for clear coolants they are best and doesn't cause any problem.
 
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I use a pastel color - this is Mayhems extreme white (concentrate).

I use those https://www.alphacool.com/shop/fittings/hardtube/hardtube-1310/21641/alphacool-eiszapfen-13mm-hardtube-anschraubtuelle-g1/4-fuer-plexi-messingrohre-deep-black-sixpack
in addition you are going to need some rotary and angled adapters + something for a draining port (ball valve + some adapters)
and the aurora (as already mentioned above) is not for the daily use - the components degrade very fast.

P.S.
Have no experience with XSPC and probably will never do.
 
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Soory for not responding back, or choosing a solution. Honestly after a week of looking at parts and other things I have nipped the whole test bench idea and going with a "wall Mounted" open air PC. This was My original plan to begin with, so I will post again with the parts I have decided on (based on your suggestions) and once I have solidified the design I wish to pursue. At which time I would love more feedback
 
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Ok so i know its been a while since my last post on this and I will select a solution to this soon. So again I have another tinkercad design, this time non test bench, more traditional flat panel PC design (this was actually my original design).
DIAGRAM OF BUILD WITH CPU AND GPU BLOCK
https://purplemonkeyinc.deviantart.com/art/Img-20170829-140851-701620360?ga_submit_new=10%3A1504032583

pics of new design
https://purplemonkeyinc.deviantart.com/art/1-701596478
https://purplemonkeyinc.deviantart.com/art/2-701596480
https://purplemonkeyinc.deviantart.com/art/5-701596473

So I have bought a few "non-crucial" parts fitting from XSPC I.E


pump
XSPC tubes
Monsoon MMRS CCFL Light Tube (CCFL-PLG-150), 150mm Length, UV / Black

and this is the remainder of parts I need to purchase ( not to include coolants and or dyes)

XSPC G1/4" to 10mm ID, 14mm OD PETG Triple Seal Fitting
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071ZGRMKP/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3GO5VFCNOM5I7&psc=1
XSPC G1/4" Female to Female Rotary Fitting
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KFPLDJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3GO5VFCNOM5I7&psc=1
XSPC RayStorm WaterBlock V3, AMD CPU (AM4 Compatible)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XCSQS4L/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=AVGUSX8EUG9VS&psc=1
3/8" ID 1/2" OD Vinyl Tubing
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LWSPRCG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A1CL50YU9JMJTM&psc=1
XSPC EX240 2 x 120mm, Dual 120mm Low Profile Split Fin Copper Radiator
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0067LW8RY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=A3GO5VFCNOM5I7&psc=1
XSPC G1/4" to 3/8" Barb Fitting
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NODEEBQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?smid=A3GO5VFCNOM5I7&psc=1


now I'm positive that I will be using green as the primary color for my coolant, and it will be UV reactive. Now I will be investing in black and white coolant as well. I get bored so I will need to be able to change to the colors on a whim.

Also, and I know we spoke about the aurora 2 coolants, BUT i will be using it for pics once the build is complete. Yes its a waste to fill the loop with it then clean it out like a week later, but I do not care, the money doesn't matter to me (in terms of coolant).

But one issue I have run into is when I tried to order from Overclockers UK the order will not let me complete.
Do I have to call them for the parts I want ordered since I'm shipping to the US, although it allows you select country and state?
 
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SO AFTER MUCH DEBATE AND A FEW EXPERT OPINIONS FROM MY GUYS AT FROZENCPU, THE EK AM4 WC block, I learned the plate and block are soldered together and has been showing cases where the plate begins to bend, preventing the best transfer of heat from the CPU to the block, as it does not seal properly across the CPU. So I will be going with the XSPC RayStorm CPU/APU WaterBlock (AMD AM4) V3 (which has been considered the only true AM4 water block.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10000510/ex-blc-2026/XSPC_RayStorm_CPUAPU_WaterBlock_AMD_AM4_V3.html

Other than everything else has been decided. As for a best answer, its hard to say because I got most info myself, but was also provided with a enough info from everyone else to make an informed decision.
 
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Yea I looked into it a little more and Mayhems own website says that you can use the aurora 2 in a custom loop for everyday use, as long as there aren't many or any 90 degree bends and dead spaces for the effects in the aurora mixes to "drop" out (get stuck and not look as good). And my guys at FrozenCPU, do not see an issue with using it in my loop. So Im going to settle on my aurora 2 silver and dying it with Mayhems UV green, for a custom UV Nuclear green. Now Im not saying it will not be 100% uneffected, but as mentioned prior to this post, I don't mind the cost of replacing fluids until I obtain the perfect color.
 
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