Intel's milking syndrom just passed on NVidia

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I have the expectation that Volta will be released in Q1 or Q2 of 2018, despite the disappointing performance in Vega. Nvidia is working in the deep learning and AI markets. This is good for gamers because gaming chips are just cut down variants of these deep learning chips. The gaming chips just have a few different features turned on or off and they have different drivers. The point is, AI is where Nvidia will make its money, and gaming GPUs are a byproduct of that market.

Its kinda like Taco Bell. I don't particularly like Taco Bell, but this is an interesting story anyway. Taco Bell has a double decker taco where it has a tortilla and a crispy shell in the taco. Taco Bell came up with the menu item as a way to reuse broken...
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I don't agree entirely. Pascal is 16 months old tech so Volta would come out in 1st or 2nd Q2018, if AMD would manage to take high end GPU performance crown. We'll see none of that now. Maybe some marginal revision of Pascal line for holidays season or 1Q 2018, nothing more. Milking old architecture all the way, like Intel did with it's 14 nm line of CPUs. I hope AMD manages to shake a boat with Navi. Until then, we have what we have, Vega out of reach, elevated prices and old architecture GPUs. I get a feeling PC GPU gaming market is slowly dying. All we are getting are console clones which don't need super powerful GPUs, on top of that AMD and NVidia invest more in prosumer products then in gaming GPUs nowdays.
 
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Here is an article about gddr6 and it wont be ready till next year by Micron.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/micron-to-release-16-gbps-gddr5x-gddr6-next-year.html

You cant "milk" something if the technology is not there. Right now, we don't even have a monitor that can push 4k past 60hz, so even if they released a new 4k card today, the performance would be exactly the same until new monitors come out (which have been pushed to 2018). Nvidia released the 1080ti and dropped their prices on the 1080/1070 when there was no competition. I don't call that milking.

Intel has not released the 7nm chips yet because they are having issues with the lithography. The transistors are getting to the atomic scale when considering size. Again, this is about the technology not being there. Now I wont say that Intel has not coasted along over the past several years. But if they had a 7nm chip ready to go, they would have released it to fight Ryzen.
 
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From the article "GDDR6, the successor to GDDR5 will be going into mass production at the beginning of next year." So 1Q/2Q 2018 would be feasible timeline for NVidia to release Volta, but with VEGA disappointment. it's not gonna happen now. I'm not interested in high end stuff, but with Volta we can expect even lower power consumption combined with increased performance so entry level GPUs like gtx 1050 will likely get 1060 performance, 1060->1070 etc. More bang for a buck. I would love to see 1050 TI/ 1060 performance on 30 W card with passive cooling solution. That would be real progress in my eyes.
 
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I have the expectation that Volta will be released in Q1 or Q2 of 2018, despite the disappointing performance in Vega. Nvidia is working in the deep learning and AI markets. This is good for gamers because gaming chips are just cut down variants of these deep learning chips. The gaming chips just have a few different features turned on or off and they have different drivers. The point is, AI is where Nvidia will make its money, and gaming GPUs are a byproduct of that market.

Its kinda like Taco Bell. I don't particularly like Taco Bell, but this is an interesting story anyway. Taco Bell has a double decker taco where it has a tortilla and a crispy shell in the taco. Taco Bell came up with the menu item as a way to reuse broken taco shells. So instead of throwing those shells in the trash, they were able to make money off said shells.

Chip makers do the same thing with many of their products. The 1080ti and the Titan have the same chip inside. They just have some pieces of the chip are turned off or disabled. In fact, the 1080ti's are probably defective Titan chips. So instead of throwing them away, they make a new product line. The same GP 104 chip is used in the 1080 as the 1070. All of these GPUs are based on the same architecture of deep learning and AI products.
 
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