Budget parts for editing PC

ChloricDread29

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My current PC specs are:

AMD Athlon 880K @ 4.2Ghz
ASUS A88XM-PLUS
CRUCIAL Ballistix 16GB DDR3 1600Mhz
HYNIX 240GB SSD - 6Gbps
WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB SATA3 - 6Gbps
AMD RX 470 4GB
500W FSP Bronze PSU

However, I want to sell my mobo, cpu and gpu and buy new parts specifically for audio editing in AmpliTube and 1080p video editing in Divinci Resolve (for now). However, I do not have a job and my family do not have lots of money so I can't spend much on it. I don't have a set budget as I will save up for as much as I need, however, I wan't to keep it as cheap as possible while still doing what I need it to do well enough.

Any ideas for what I should buy? I will buy used if necessary. Also, is my ram fast enough or will I need to buy new ram as well?
 
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Barty1884

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For your needs, a Ryzen5 would be a good option (4c/8t or 6c/12t).... but the price jumps quite a bit when you need DDR4.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($156.48 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $336.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-18 10:43 EDT-0400

That's the 'entry level' R5, but still very capable - especially with an overclock.


The problem with your current build is it's 'end of the line', there's nothing better.
How much you could recoup from an 880K, A88XM-PLUS and 16GB DDR3 is anybodies guess....
Looking at comparables on eBay:
the board sells for ~$40
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=a88x-plus&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

the CPU for ~$40-$50
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=16gb+ddr3+1600&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC0.A0.H0.Xathlon+880k.TRS0&_nkw=athlon+880k&_sacat=0

16GB DDR3 1600 for ~$60-$90
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=16gb%20ddr3%201600&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

So, somewhere between $140-$180 IF you part it out. Selling as a combo, I'd expect you'd only be able to recoup ~$100-$120 (on a good day)
AND eBay take a cut of the price(s).


As for used, there's too viable for much less than the Ryzen5 cost new. A 3rd or 4th Gen i7 would be a great option too, and could reuse the DDR3..... but motherboards for them are hard to come by & therefore, expensive.
 

ChloricDread29

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Thanks for the reply! I'd also be able to sell my RX-470 4GB and get a different gpu for cheaper if that changes anything. I wish I new more about PC's when I got mine, regret getting the 880k a lot as I have no upgrade path now :/

 

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It's hard decision as it won't be very cheap. I would say Ryzen 3 1200 CPU and OC it to 3.9/4Ghz (combined with B350 mobo) to get around 600 multi core Cinebench R15 score. Roughly 70-90 % better then Athlon 880K. But you have to change DDR3 ram to 3000+ DDR4 which doesn't come cheap (120 $+ for 16 gb). Maybe you could look for some cheap used i5 like i5 4690K CPU and combine it with used Z97 mobo, so you don't have to buy new ram. It would give you 600 Cinebench score (720+ OC). Your GPU is just fine for now (I prefered NVidia counterparts in the past as they used to work better with video editing programs like Adobe premiere, but Polaris is not bad at all at rendering, maybe even on pair with more expensive GTX 1070).

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2172292
 

ChloricDread29

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Ok thanks I'll take a look into that! The reason I suggested selling my gpu is because I could use the money I get to buy a lower end gpu and the left over money I can put into my cpu as the tasks I'll be using my PC will be more cpu intensive and won't require such a good gpu. Is that right?
 

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Video editing programs use GPUs cuda cores (more cores is better), so good GPU translates into lower rendering/encoding times (especially important if you'll be editing raw or 4K video material). I wouldn't sell GPU if I were you. RX 470 seams to be quite capable video editing card, from what I've read (I'm using Tesla at work, but they are very expensive, massively overpriced pro cards).
 
I would certainly suggest selling GPU since you are looking at non-gaming CPU tasks

If the applications you use can do Hardware Acceleration/GPU Parallel Processing then you want NVIDIA for that.
There is two standards CUDA (NVIDIA) and OpenCL (BOTH). There are more programs that only use CUDA vs ones that only use OpenCL, not to mention that CUDA is faster/more efficient. So between NVIDIA having both, and having the faster standard NVIDA is the obvious choice for non-gaming dedicated GPU.

Now what CPU intensive tasks are you doing as that determines whether I would suggest you getting a 1050, 1030, or just getting a $30 710.
 

unikinqay

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Davinci resolve works very well on ATIPro cards, so RX 470 should be OK too. He doesn't mention using Adobe programs, where NVidia is/was a "must" (I'd like to try new Vega Frontier Edition beast on it though, AMD is advertising fluent 8K video editing).

http://www.amd.com/en-us/solutions/professional/workstations/media-entertainment/davinci#
 

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My friend who is getting a new PC build will sell me his old cpu (Intel Core i5 4570 3.2GHz) and mobo (not sure which one, my friend will tell me next time he goes on his pc) for £100/$128. Is this cpu good enough for 1080p video editing along with my RX 470 4GB?

 

unikinqay

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It will suffice, very good deal price wise. You'll get lower rendering/encoding times with i5 4570 (mobo is not important as you can't OC this CPU) and much better single threated performance on top of that. You can then sell your CPU/mobo for £50 to lower your costs further.
 
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ChloricDread29

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Awesome! Will my gpu affect rendering/encoding times in any way or should I sell it and get a lower end one for extra money? Also, I've heard video editing requires fast ram, will 16GB ddr3 1600MHz suffice?

 

unikinqay

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Ram frequency should not be a problem. I've worked with DDR2/DDR3/DDR4 encoding machines over the years, 1600 Mhz is OK in real life performance. GPU will most probably highly affect your rendering/encoding times, how much depends on a program you'll be using. Some programs prefer NVidia like Adobe and some AMD. You should google it to find out which card will work best with programs, you'll be using.

How heavy video files are we talking about here? If we're in a few GB range of basic editing, machine will be more then OK, if you're thinking about editing 50+ GB per single project in UHD material, you will be in trouble, especially if you want to add some after effects to the video. This is a very basic video editing build.
 

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It will not be heavy editing, I'm just a 14 year old who enjoys making short films and music with my mates! Thanks for all the help!

 

ChloricDread29

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I will not be doing much gaming at all, so maybe that is the path I should take. My friend has a i3 6100 and 1050Ti and seems to handle all games 1080p 60fps fine, so even when I do, it should be adequate, and anyways, even when I am gaming the only game I usually play is Amnesia: The Dark Descent which doesn't even require a good PC, so I should be fine :D Thank you for the suggestion!

 

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Sorry to keep bothering you but PC Part Picker says this; https://gyazo.com/fecc11100da06eed15e5b5b34bde1c09 when I put my case and new motherboard together. What exactly does this mean and will it affect anything or can I still go ahead will the build?

 

ChloricDread29

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Thanks!