SSD + HDD QUestion (and windows 10)

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DefinitelyNotTom

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Most people recommend using both a SSD and a HDD, due to more space, plus I assume less writes to the SSD.

Well, if you store your videos on the HDD, won't it still be slow, even though the program you watch it with is on the SSD, since it still has to load the file from the HDD?

Also, people say I must purchase a windows 10 key, even though I already have one on my current PC, since it would be an OEM one only available to this exact PC. How can that even be true, when you don't have to be connected online to even install win 10, so it would have a way to disallow it, and I don't see how it would violate anything if I use it only on one pc. Couldn't I even clone my HDD onto the new SSD and already have it working?
 
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1. The Win 10 OS license.
One license, one PC. You can link that Win 10 digital entitlement to a new system (probably), and move it to new hardware.
Read here.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3164428/windows-build-1607-activation.html

But only one system at a time, of course.


2. Cloning to a different drive in the same system? Absolutely no problem.


3. SSD + HDD.
The OS and applications on the SSD, music/video/docs on the HDD.
With a video, if you play it...it does not load the whole thing all at once just to start playing it. And the movie does not play any faster if it were to live on the SSD. Nor should it.
Same with a music playlist.

The OS and applications on the SSD enable those things to run much faster. A video does not care.


4. Writes on the SSD. This is a non-issue. Put it out of your mind.
Unless you are hosting a large database, with thousands of read/writes per minute, all day every day.
 
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Thanks. As for the video example, I didn't mean it should play the video faster, what I meant is actually "starting" it faster. I know on my current PC with only a HDD, my program for watching videos takes maybe 5 or more seconds between double clicking the video and the video starting to play. Do you think that's more related to the program starting or it taking that long to load part of the video? I am unsure if having the progr4am on the SSD would speed that up, if the video is still located on the HDD.

As far as the writes, yeah it sounds like that is kind of overblown. I read one article that stated recently that with normal use one should last 13 years. So even if they were wrong by double, it would strill last a decent amount of time. Still I hate to push it.

Someone on ehre recommended the Samsung evo 960, and I now see why they recommend that over others, as I was noticing write and read speeds seem really good. although, then again, I think they give those speeds for constantly switching between files nonstop, so it may not necessarily be much faster for normal use.... not sure on that. Some brands of SSD cost half the price per GB.
 
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I read the topic, so let me see if I understand, though. I should go ahead and set up the MS account on my CURRENT pc and tie it to it first, so then it's in their system digitally. THEN when I install windows on the new pc, I would simply activate it digitally on ym new one, so it wouldbasically move it over to active for that system, right?

Also, that topic answered me on how it even checks to begin with. I wondered if it has info with the mobo, and sure enough that is how it would stop me from normally moving it to another pc.

Also assuming I understood all of that correctly, I theoretically could still use this pc as a backup pc in case my new one has issues some day, then simply move the license back to this one again, as I still would be using only 1 at a time. So I would save $100 this way and it would seem the only reason to NOT do this would be if I wanted to use win 10 on both machines at the same time.
 
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For playing a video, any lag time is almost 100% the application, rather than where the video file lives.
My HTPC has 2 little 120GB SSDs. One for the OS, and the other for sometimes temp movies.
The vast majority of my video files live on a whole other system...a NAS box. So those are accessed from a low power NAS, across the LAN.

I can't really tell any difference in the 'start time' of playing a movie from either the internal secondary SSD, or from the whole other NAS system.
The application, VLC in my case, starts up fast.
Maybe a couple of seconds.

But the whole rest of the system is really, really fast, because it lives on the SSD.



For the OS license? Yes, link it to your MS account.
 
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ok thanks for the info and VLC is what I use as well. For some reason sometimes it takes a few extra seconds (I think the first time I use it), but I have only the HDD, so was hoping that indeed it's just a tad slow due the program not residing on an SSD.

Anyway, so sounds like I am pretty set in this area, other than deciding how big of one to get. If used for only programs, 128 GB would be plenty, but Samsung doesn't make below 256, if I am not mistaken, on the evo one. So I will probably get the 256 and a HDD.

If I did get the one around 500GB, though, I could maybe technically get by without a HDD, other than my external one... But I guess I shouldn't go that route because 256 would be plenty and then obviously would get a ton more space on a HDD for the second drive than going with the bigger SSD.
 
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