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I was researching and trying to come up with a build that would play games better than my current setup, and I came up with this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2JgvJV

IDo all the parts compliment each other well? How far can I go with this system? (In terms of 1440p and 4k gaming, etc.) And lastly, how long would I be able to go before having to upgrade again?
 
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If you already have a monitor that pairs well with a 1070, then absolutely, go for it.

As for the changes....... it *might* be fine, but please post a link.
I would ensure you haven't dropped down to RAM speeds below 3000MHz for Ryzen..... it really...
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A 1070 is a great 1440p card, although 4K, you'd be looking at low-medium settings (at best) most of the time.

It's a fairly balanced rig, although I have a few comments:
1. A Ryzen5 (or even Ryzen3) CPU would be beneficial here. More cores/threads, although should really be overclocked.

2. A 2x4GB "kit" of DDR4 would be much more beneficial (2x8GB would be ideal - certain titles are exceeding 8GB today). 2133or2400MHz for a locked Intel chip, 3000MHz for Ryzen.

3.The 500W from EVGA is a very budget PSU, and I wouldn't suggest a 1070 running on it.

4. An SSD would be great - improves the overall 'feel' of everything. Doesn't impact gaming performance though (outside of load/saves times)


For $1,000 I'd expect better.

This goes about $100 over budget, but that's mostly the SSD or increased RAM. You could drop to 2x4GB DDR4, or just run an HDD for now, and keep it right around the budget you originally had.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($83.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($434.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1091.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Drop the SSD

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($434.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1007.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-21 13:03 EDT-0400

OR drop the RAM to 8GB

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($83.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($434.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1047.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-21 13:03 EDT-0400

Personally, I'd drop the SSD for now, and keep the 16GB RAM. An SSD is an easy add in future.


 
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I concur about ryzen. I can't see getting an i5 for gaming now. You gotta figure, PS4 and Xbox one are both 8 core cpus, I'm guessing game developers will start programming for multithreaded applications. I5 would be good for a while, but with Ryzen, you should be able to drop a new cpu into the board later.
 
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I like this build, but I have one problem with it.
I need a least 2 TB or more of storage.

I know that 1 TB should be fine most of the time, but my father (who I'm helping to make a system) likes to install all of his games regardless of whether he plays them or not. I've tried to tell him that he doesn't need to install the games he doesn't play, but he won't listen. He also doesn't care much for an SSD or faster load times (He's old, so I guess he's used to it).

I think I can drop the 16 GB of RAM down to 8 for now and get more later, seeing as the games my dad usually plays don't use much RAM. (7 Days to Die and America's Army 3 are two examples)
 
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Just throwing this out there....

Is a 1070 really necessary? For 1080p gaming, a 6GB 1060 would do the job perfectly @ Max/Ultra for most titles, others may have to drop to Medium-High.

If you don't currently have a 1440p or 4K monitor, it wouldn't make too much sense to be building around it IMO.
This could net you amazing 1080p performance, and the foundation is there for longevity...... a simple GPU upgrade in a year or two (when you're ready for 1440p or 4K, with a monitor 'in hand') and you're good to go.

With the money saved, you can stick with the 16GB RAM, get the 2+TB storage and an SSD, and come in a little under budget.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.86 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card ($264.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $961.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-22 10:52 EDT-0400

Of course, if you already have a 1440p or 4K monitor, then the 1060 isn't going to be a great performer.
 
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We do indeed already have a 1440p monitor. My father is also planning to get some new games maybe two weeks after he gets a new system (when he gets paid). So yes, the 1070 is necessary. My father is kind of a stubborn mule, so if he wants something, he's going to get it.

I dropped the RAM down to two sticks of 4 GB RAM, kept the HDD, and readded the 1070, and came in 10 dollars under budget. Is that fine?

Also sorry for not including most of these details in the original post.
 
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Good call on the 1060. Main thing I see with 1070 is in a year when ppl are upgrading to say an 1150, you may have another year at 1080p in the 1070. It's not like 1060 would not run 2018 titles, may just have to turn down a couple of effects.

Like me, I'm still running a Radeon 7950 3gb with my 1600 until I get more cash and until the mining craze dies down. That said I run most titles well at medium to high. Basically 1050ti performance. Not too bad for a card from 2012 lol.
 
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If you already have a monitor that pairs well with a 1070, then absolutely, go for it.

As for the changes....... it *might* be fine, but please post a link.
I would ensure you haven't dropped down to RAM speeds below 3000MHz for Ryzen..... it really does benefit from the faster memory.

I assume you dropped the SSD to come under budget too? (assuming the budget is $1,000)

Keeping the SSD in there, the best I can see is $1087

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.86 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($434.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1087.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-22 11:57 EDT-0400

Dropping the SSD comes in just under $1,000

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($80.86 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($434.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-X1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($26.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $997.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-22 11:58 EDT-0400

Honestly, if you can, I'd try to squeeze an SSD in there. The overall responsiveness makes it a worthwhile inclusion..... although it can be added at a later date.

 
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Believe me, I'd love to keep the SSD in there. I'll talk to my father to see if he can go $100 over budget (which is $1000, yes.). Otherwise I'll have to drop the SSD. Thanks for all your help.
 
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Something to consider too, which may help.

You currently have a system? If so, can you 'donate' the OS from it, or do you still need it functional?
If you don't *need* it on the old system, make sure you link it to your MS account (Windows 10) and you should be able to activate on your new system:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/20530/windows-10-reactivating-after-hardware-change

That could potentially save you the $90 for the OS, allowing you to keep the SSD in there.
 
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I have two systems actually, one that is more current (gtx 660) and one that is on the older side (from 2007 and forward).
I "COULD" move the OS from the older system, but the problem is, it's Windows 7 (Which is still a damn good OS), and it's not exactly a "legal" copy, according to my dad.
 
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