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pedroleote2005

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Alright guys, I am a little bit experienced in PC making and parts overall, but I have this question:
My laptop has the HD 8500m graphics card and I think an onboard R5 graphics. Which one is better to use and tell me how to choose one?

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-For the R5 Graphics I have 4 processors with it.
-I get about 30-60 fps on CSGO at everything at the worst and in competitive mode (it seems to use R5 by the AMD Control panel's info)
-It seems to use the above (R5 Graphics) in everything I play and Subnautica isn't playable because of 10-20 FPS at Minimal
-My processors are all AMD A6-6410 APU (4)
 
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In a laptop, generally the system will automatically with between the "onboard" (so the R5) and the discreet (the HD), depending on the task.
When you open AMD's CP, you're doing that at the desktop, so it's using the "onboard".

When in game, you can't open AMD's CP, so you likely don't knwo for sure what it's using.... but should be using the HD.

Neither GPU aspect is going to be great at gaming, but I'd expect the discreet GPU (the HD) to perform better..... otherwise, why would it be there?

Perhaps your laptop has some utility that can force the 'switch' between the two. Which do you have specifically?
 
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I mean I've seen other threads and I'm kind of eager to test out deselecting my R5 Graphics so that it forces to only use the HD 8500M.
 
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Then why would a laptop fabricator be wise enough to put these inside the machine? HP wouldn't do that...

 
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I think what dextermat was trying to say is mixing a GPU that the laptop has not been designed for.

Laptops have limited cooling ability, and the design of the laptop is appropriate to cool the GPU supplied with it, and nothing else.

Let's say you could replace it (in 99.99% of cases, you can't), and the new GPU required X watts of additional power, or gave off Y additional heat.
The laptop you have is not designed to supply the additional power, nor exhaust the additional heat.
So, even if it *could* be done, the chances of it not thermal throttling (at best), or shutting down under any sort of load (at worse) would negate any "benefits" you may have thought you could achieve with the upgrade.
 
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pedroleote2005

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Listen. I bought this pre-made laptop which came with these. My laptop not supporting the graphics card would be pure lying since my laptop runs fine and the power supply too. I tried to find data on HD 8500M, but none was found. the onboard R5 graphics are also in there so I don't understand your reasonings. The laptop was never modified and probably isn't getting an SSD until 3 months. Deactivating one should make up for the energy required to power both.

 
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pedroleote2005

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Although I could accept the possibilty of the first reply a get an entirely new setup. I just think it's weird because everything that seems to show what GPU it uses always shows the onboard one and not the actual one for the job.
 
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First off, I'd suggest editing the language there. Kids can read this forum.

If you re-read what I said, I'm not saying you don't have an HD8500M. Laptops with both R5 onboard graphics and HD8500M series discreet graphics exist.

I believe I had misread your post to begin with, as I thought you were asking if you could replace your HD8500M series card - and that's what I was explaining above.

Note though, "HD8500M" is a series, and not a specific GPU - 8570 and 8590 would be the specific GPU.
Info here: http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/notebook/8500m-8600m

From my first response though, I asked you to confirm which laptop you had specifically, so we can check for utilities etc:

erhaps your laptop has some utility that can force the 'switch' between the two. Which do you have specifically?
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It's also worth opening Catalyst Control Centre and seeing if "switchable graphics" is an option available to you.
As per suggestion here: http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2610379/switch-intel-graphics4000-amd-radeon-8570m.html
 
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pedroleote2005

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First off, sorry for the language. Before I posted the reply, I was really mad because I still can't figure out how to find what discreet graphics card I have, since all tools I used just showed the series, as you said.

Second, I bought my laptop from Staples for about 2 years now, because of in that time it was required for work. If you need a full spec table, i'll send you, but I cannot locate my laptop in the Staples's store again or in the online one, even in my area.

It also seems that I don't have the Catalyst but have the drivers...idk what's going on honestly.
 
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