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TDKPyrostasis

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Just bought a brand new threadripper system. Loving it.

However bumping into an issue with the ram. The ram is 3600 ddr4 with 17-18-18-38 1.35v timings.

However stock its showing as 2133. I've just recently flashed the bios to the latest version and then enabled XMP and tried setting the ram to 3600. The PC then power cycles 3 - 4 times and then disabled XMP and the OC profile.

I tried manually setting the timings to what the box says and tried both of the set profiles but the board simply wont run at those rates.

I understand this is a rather new system and chip but box clearly says the board supports 3600 (though it does say thats an OC profile) and the ram can do it. Am I missing something?
 
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That's not what I'm saying ..... at least, not exactly.

Ryzen is still new, and board vendors have released BIOS updates to steadily improve RAM speeds you can achieve.

That 3600MHz kit would likely have no issues on a compatible Intel platform, but Ryzen is still in it's (relative) infancy......and we're likely a couple of BIOS revisions shy of seeing speeds of 3600MHz outside of a few, select kits.
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Are there other XMP profiles available to try? Pushing overly high RAM speeds on Ryzen has been difficult overall, with "Ryzen tested" modules on the market for a reason.

Most kits (rated for higher) should be able to run at around 3000MHz, but you'd need some pretty good luck to get 3600MHz stable IMO.
 
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There are quite a few XMP profiles. I managed to get it to boot at 3333 but it bluescreened about 30 seconds into windows. Its running 3200 right now and no issues so far.

I am not a hardware guru by any means but you are saying a board rated for 3600 and ram rated for 3600 normally cant hit 3600 and I should be happy at 3200?

I figure the difference in performance from 3200 and 3600 probably arent too huge, I just want to make sure its working as intended and not an issue of setup on my part.
 
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That's not what I'm saying ..... at least, not exactly.

Ryzen is still new, and board vendors have released BIOS updates to steadily improve RAM speeds you can achieve.

That 3600MHz kit would likely have no issues on a compatible Intel platform, but Ryzen is still in it's (relative) infancy......and we're likely a couple of BIOS revisions shy of seeing speeds of 3600MHz outside of a few, select kits.
 
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Awesome ok so be happy with 3200 for now. Check my bios updates over the next few months and it will likely improve. Appreciate the info man. Been a long time since I played with hardware this new and cool =)
 
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3200 is the highest possible memory speed officially supported in the MSI QVL (qualified vendor list) - there is no 3600 RAM on there so your RAM has not been tested on that board by MSI. Overclocking over 3200 especially on a new chipset is uncharted territory. I'd suggest running it using the "Try It!" setting at 3200 and maybe later with newer BIOSes it will get stable enough for your to OC that high. I can't even get 4x8 (32GB) of 3200 to run at 2400 (not sure how many sticks/how much RAM you're using) but I can get two sticks of 8GB running at 3200 so you're doing way better than me.
 
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I can say mine is doing the exact same thing, I can run 2 sticks of my quad channel 32gb kit at 3466mhz no problem but when I add the last 2 it drops it down to 2133. I haven't tried 3200, 3000 or anything lower than that with all 4 however so I'll try that when I get home tonight but i can definitely run 2 at 3466mhz with that being said hopefully they fix it so that in the future I can use all 8 of the damn RAM slots...

Using the Gigabyte X399 motherboard also, so it doesn't seem to be a motherboard specific problem at all. It's definitely something specific to ryzen that hasn't been optimized yet on either platform Z370 or X399.
 
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Im using 32 gigs of ram with 4 sticks. I unfortunately got a bluescreen at 3200 so down to 3066 and been stable for the past 3 days of high use with that.
 
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Yeah thought I was stable at 3200 but ended up getting a bluescreen mid stream. I have since swapped to 3066 with 4 sticks and have had no more issues.
 
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OK after spending a lot more time on this, I have some additional info. My issue was a bad motherboard. After trying to boot using known-good sticks in every slot, I noticed that slot 5 and 6 did not allow me to boot. Because slot 6 is required for quad channel, I couldn't boot using 4 sticks. When I bought a new board locally, I was able to run XMP Profile 2 on 4x8GB and boot immediately with zero issues. So now I'm running 4 sticks of HyperX Predator at 3200 and the CPU at 3.7GHz on the 1.2 BIOS (my old board didn't POST with 4 sticks on v1.2, v1.3, or beta 1.4x).

Also, G. Skill is about to release 3600 RAM that is marketed specifically as "Threadripper RAM" so I don't think it is too far fetched for you to be overclocking to higher speeds soon. Now I'm a bit concerned that you can't run at 3200 but I'd expect the difference between 3066 and 3200 is negligible. It may be worth booting with one stick on default speed (2400?) in every DIMM slot just to make sure they are all capable of booting with one stick, but this board seems a bit flaky so it may be better to leave "good enough" alone.
 
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Labeling a particular kit as "Threadripper RAM" is a nice marketing gimmick, but won't actually change much. They already did this with their FlareX line for Ryzen. Really all they're doing is including XMP profiles that are more compatible with Ryzen/Threadripper, which may make it easier for some, but it's nothing you can't do yourself in the BIOS. Greater RAM compatibility and speed is coming from AMD AGESA updates and gets rolled into BIOS updates from your particular motherboard vendor.
 
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This ram is not in the QVL, Unless it has changed and given I cant find that QVL list anymore given this is MSI its not surprising 3200 was the highest listed ram in the QVL when I built my TR mb specs say 3600+ but there was no ram listed at those speeds and known to work which is why I settled on 3200 14-14-14-34 gskills but my tRC is almost double what XMP says it should... Im done with this company for their zero support and strongarm tactics handing off problems to the 'community'

know this is a older thread problem is this problem STILL exists to this day...
 
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