I'm not sure if this is possible now with windows 10, but I have a hardrive with all the software I need on it installed. I am upgrading from an intel 3930k to a new 1950x threadripper, with new motherboard and ram. Video cards and everything else will remain the same. Is it possible to just plug the hardrive into the new motherboard and windows 10 will work everything out and it will work properly? I never installed any drivers with the intel cpu, motherboard....windows 10 did that automatically itself. will it do that with the new AMD system?
install old hardrive with software to new system
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Unfortunately, no. 
A change of a motherboard almost guarantees a wipe and fresh install, and I'd think that would be compounded by the Intel to AMD CPU change as well. If it makes you feel better, it's nice to know anyways that you have everything fresh, and there's no question of that on system performance.
You can back up your docs, emails, music, media, etc but pretty much all software programs will also need re-installs.
A change of a motherboard almost guarantees a wipe and fresh install, and I'd think that would be compounded by the Intel to AMD CPU change as well. If it makes you feel better, it's nice to know anyways that you have everything fresh, and there's no question of that on system performance.
You can back up your docs, emails, music, media, etc but pretty much all software programs will also need re-installs.
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Unfortunately, no.
A change of a motherboard almost guarantees a wipe and fresh install, and I'd think that would be compounded by the Intel to AMD CPU change as well. If it makes you feel better, it's nice to know anyways that you have everything fresh, and there's no question of that on system performance.
You can back up your docs, emails, music, media, etc but pretty much all software programs will also need re-installs.
A change of a motherboard almost guarantees a wipe and fresh install, and I'd think that would be compounded by the Intel to AMD CPU change as well. If it makes you feel better, it's nice to know anyways that you have everything fresh, and there's no question of that on system performance.
You can back up your docs, emails, music, media, etc but pretty much all software programs will also need re-installs.
1. Before we get into what I want to go over with you...tell me...what motherboard have you chosen for the AMD Threadripper 1950x CPU? Or have you not decided?
2. And if you don't mind the question...have you actually purchased that AMD processor? Or are you just considering it at this point?
3. I hope that by & by after you've built & worked with your new AMD Threadripper system you post a review of your experience with the new system.
3. Now...re your post query...
Assuming that your "old" HDD contains a viable OS, i.e., it's non-defective, bootable, and functions problem-free, it's conceivable that you can install that disk in your new build and it will boot & function just fine in the new system. BTW, I can't imagine this will be anything but a temporary situation that one way or another you plan to utilize the HDD as the boot drive for that new system. I can't imagine not having a SSD as the permanent boot drive. Could you comment on this?
Please understand that a successful transfer along the lines you contemplate is something of a crapshoot; obviously there are no guarantees here that it will work. But it may be worth a shot.
As a general proposition we have found the chances of a successful transfer increase when...
1. Both the old & new PCs are non-OEM machines, and,
2. Both PCs are either Intel-based or AMD-based systems.
Understand the above are not "hard & fast" rules. We've successfully transferred systems in spite of the above "criteria" not being met, but our "success rate" dramatically increases when the above criteria are met. I take it 1. above is met but obviously 2. is not. So I would not be unduly optimistic that you could effect a viable transfer.
So if by undertaking this transfer you're fortunate enough to gain a bootable, functional system as a result, you will, of course have all your programs, personal data, etc. available without going through that rather onerous task of installing a new system.
Obviously you may have to install different drivers of one type or another in the new system but of course these will be available from your new motherboard's driver installation CD/DVD. And you may be pleasantly surprised at Windows (Microsoft's) ability to pick up & install whatever drivers are necessary for your new installation without user intervention (especially since the OS is Win 10); although given the newness of the AMD Threadripper CPU and associated system I would think you probably will be dependent upon the m/b's driver installation CD/DVD.
IF YOU DO DECIDE TO UNDERTAKE THIS TRANSFER ATTEMPT WE STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT BEFORE DOING SO YOU CLONE THE CONTENTS OF THE DRIVE TO BE TRANSFERRED. SHOULD THE TRANSFER OPERATION FAIL (NOT AN UNUSUAL EVENT ESPECIALLY IN THIS SITUATION), THE NEW SYSTEM MIGHT - REPEAT MIGHT - MODIFY THE DRIVE'S OS IN SUCH A FASHION THAT THE OLD DRIVE'S OS COULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED, RESULTING IN AN UNBOOTABLE OS IF & WHEN THE DRIVE IS RE:INSTALLED BACK IN THE OLD PC. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS SITUATION IN RARE CASES. HOWEVER, THE DRIVE'S NON-OS DATA SHOULD NOT BE AFFECTED. AT LEAST WE'VE NEVER RUN INTO THAT SITUATION.
Of course if the above is not of consequence to you because you have no intention of returning the HDD to the "old" system, then you can just forgo the disk-cloning operation.
So, all things considered, you may want to give the transfer operation a shot since it seems there would be nothing to lose but a bit of your time and you can always fresh-install the Win 10 OS on the new system.
Hope you'll keep us informed.
2. And if you don't mind the question...have you actually purchased that AMD processor? Or are you just considering it at this point?
3. I hope that by & by after you've built & worked with your new AMD Threadripper system you post a review of your experience with the new system.
3. Now...re your post query...
Assuming that your "old" HDD contains a viable OS, i.e., it's non-defective, bootable, and functions problem-free, it's conceivable that you can install that disk in your new build and it will boot & function just fine in the new system. BTW, I can't imagine this will be anything but a temporary situation that one way or another you plan to utilize the HDD as the boot drive for that new system. I can't imagine not having a SSD as the permanent boot drive. Could you comment on this?
Please understand that a successful transfer along the lines you contemplate is something of a crapshoot; obviously there are no guarantees here that it will work. But it may be worth a shot.
As a general proposition we have found the chances of a successful transfer increase when...
1. Both the old & new PCs are non-OEM machines, and,
2. Both PCs are either Intel-based or AMD-based systems.
Understand the above are not "hard & fast" rules. We've successfully transferred systems in spite of the above "criteria" not being met, but our "success rate" dramatically increases when the above criteria are met. I take it 1. above is met but obviously 2. is not. So I would not be unduly optimistic that you could effect a viable transfer.
So if by undertaking this transfer you're fortunate enough to gain a bootable, functional system as a result, you will, of course have all your programs, personal data, etc. available without going through that rather onerous task of installing a new system.
Obviously you may have to install different drivers of one type or another in the new system but of course these will be available from your new motherboard's driver installation CD/DVD. And you may be pleasantly surprised at Windows (Microsoft's) ability to pick up & install whatever drivers are necessary for your new installation without user intervention (especially since the OS is Win 10); although given the newness of the AMD Threadripper CPU and associated system I would think you probably will be dependent upon the m/b's driver installation CD/DVD.
IF YOU DO DECIDE TO UNDERTAKE THIS TRANSFER ATTEMPT WE STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT BEFORE DOING SO YOU CLONE THE CONTENTS OF THE DRIVE TO BE TRANSFERRED. SHOULD THE TRANSFER OPERATION FAIL (NOT AN UNUSUAL EVENT ESPECIALLY IN THIS SITUATION), THE NEW SYSTEM MIGHT - REPEAT MIGHT - MODIFY THE DRIVE'S OS IN SUCH A FASHION THAT THE OLD DRIVE'S OS COULD BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED, RESULTING IN AN UNBOOTABLE OS IF & WHEN THE DRIVE IS RE:INSTALLED BACK IN THE OLD PC. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS SITUATION IN RARE CASES. HOWEVER, THE DRIVE'S NON-OS DATA SHOULD NOT BE AFFECTED. AT LEAST WE'VE NEVER RUN INTO THAT SITUATION.
Of course if the above is not of consequence to you because you have no intention of returning the HDD to the "old" system, then you can just forgo the disk-cloning operation.
So, all things considered, you may want to give the transfer operation a shot since it seems there would be nothing to lose but a bit of your time and you can always fresh-install the Win 10 OS on the new system.
Hope you'll keep us informed.
@Artpog
The systems I have are not OEM, they are custom built by me. I already ordered my threadripper and it will be here tomorrow. Below is what I purchased to upgrade the computer to an AMD system.
Threadripper 1950x
ASUS ROG ZENITH EXTREME Motherboard
G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB DDR4 3200
For cooling I will be using my Corsair Hydro Series H115i, which was connected to the Intel 3930k I am replacing. I will be applying Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut to the cooler to reduce the temp even more. I am looking forward to seeing what new AIO Liquid Coolers specifically made for Threadripper with a surface plate that matches the size of Threadrippers thermal plate can do for dropping temps even more. Guess we have to wait for those.
For the drive I'm just going to go with the long process of wiping the drive and doing a clean install.
The systems I have are not OEM, they are custom built by me. I already ordered my threadripper and it will be here tomorrow. Below is what I purchased to upgrade the computer to an AMD system.
Threadripper 1950x
ASUS ROG ZENITH EXTREME Motherboard
G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB DDR4 3200
For cooling I will be using my Corsair Hydro Series H115i, which was connected to the Intel 3930k I am replacing. I will be applying Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut to the cooler to reduce the temp even more. I am looking forward to seeing what new AIO Liquid Coolers specifically made for Threadripper with a surface plate that matches the size of Threadrippers thermal plate can do for dropping temps even more. Guess we have to wait for those.
For the drive I'm just going to go with the long process of wiping the drive and doing a clean install.
Good luck on your forthcoming new Threadripper system. I would be especially interested in your review of this new system after you've worked with it a while. I hope you'll keep us informed.
One final question...apparently your boot drive will be the HDD from your old system with a fresh-install of the OS. You're NOT planning to utilize an SSD in that new system? Would you mind tell me what your thinking is in terms of not utilizing an SSD?
One final question...apparently your boot drive will be the HDD from your old system with a fresh-install of the OS. You're NOT planning to utilize an SSD in that new system? Would you mind tell me what your thinking is in terms of not utilizing an SSD?
@ArtPog
Sorry thought I stated earlier, the hard drive from my old system is a SSD. Still use to calling them hard drives for some reason. It is a Samsung 850 Pro 2TB, that's why i'm not buying a new M.2 960 Pro for the new system, cause the drive is still really good and was expensive. Also in real world performance, I'm not sure yet if upgrading from a 850 Pro SSD to a 960 Pro M.2 would be worth the money. Not sure how much of a difference it would make?
Sorry thought I stated earlier, the hard drive from my old system is a SSD. Still use to calling them hard drives for some reason. It is a Samsung 850 Pro 2TB, that's why i'm not buying a new M.2 960 Pro for the new system, cause the drive is still really good and was expensive. Also in real world performance, I'm not sure yet if upgrading from a 850 Pro SSD to a 960 Pro M.2 would be worth the money. Not sure how much of a difference it would make?
@Artpog
So far not so good, having many issues. Windows 10 freezing, but updating to the latest 1703 seemed to fix most of that. But some programs still don't work right, they freeze, or like 3dsmax it shows nothing in the viewports. I cannot enter my Ram speed for the Ram in bios, or else the computer will not post. I have ddr4 3200, but have to run it at the default 2133. I found out that my Ram is not on there QVL (Qualified Vendors List.) So I wonder if that can be the reason for all these issues. So far the system is unusable for work.
So far not so good, having many issues. Windows 10 freezing, but updating to the latest 1703 seemed to fix most of that. But some programs still don't work right, they freeze, or like 3dsmax it shows nothing in the viewports. I cannot enter my Ram speed for the Ram in bios, or else the computer will not post. I have ddr4 3200, but have to run it at the default 2133. I found out that my Ram is not on there QVL (Qualified Vendors List.) So I wonder if that can be the reason for all these issues. So far the system is unusable for work.
Really sorry to hear of the problems you're experiencing with the new Threadripper system (although it was good to learn your boot drive is not a HDD, but rather a Samsung 2 TB SSD. Frankly, I would see no reason - no reason at all - for you to "upgrade to a Sammy M.2 960 Pro from your present 850 Pro. I can't imagine (as you suspect) that "real-world" performance would be superior in any significant way.)
As to your memory problems -- unfortunately not a unusual situation with these new processors & systems. AMD went through these "teething" problems with RAM frequency with their Ryzen systems for a few months. Seems to have settled down recently. We generally use G.SKILL memory in our systems and we usually directly check with G.SKILL to get their input as to desirable models, particularly when new CPUs come online.
Difficult to tell why you should be experiencing problems with programs that presumably performed problem-free within a previous Win 10 environment. Have you checked with the developer re this issue(s) you're experiencing?
Trust you can sort these issues out.
As to your memory problems -- unfortunately not a unusual situation with these new processors & systems. AMD went through these "teething" problems with RAM frequency with their Ryzen systems for a few months. Seems to have settled down recently. We generally use G.SKILL memory in our systems and we usually directly check with G.SKILL to get their input as to desirable models, particularly when new CPUs come online.
Difficult to tell why you should be experiencing problems with programs that presumably performed problem-free within a previous Win 10 environment. Have you checked with the developer re this issue(s) you're experiencing?
Trust you can sort these issues out.
Okay so called Asus, and they where no help at all. They knew nothing about there own board and didn't even ask me what bios version I was using. They just kept saying It's because the Ram isn't QVL. I asked them is there something we can try instead of just blaming the QVL, they said no....ridiculous.
So I took out 4 sticks of ram and reseated the other four sticks, all of a sudden everything is working, still can't set the correct Ram settings in bios, But no more glitches, freezes, crashes. My cpu that only would run at 88% utilization was now running at full 100% utilization. Today I found a new official Asus Bios that isn't even posted on Asus's website....ugh... Installed that and now everything works great! Can put in correct ram settings and everything. Running super smooth and fast.
So I took out 4 sticks of ram and reseated the other four sticks, all of a sudden everything is working, still can't set the correct Ram settings in bios, But no more glitches, freezes, crashes. My cpu that only would run at 88% utilization was now running at full 100% utilization. Today I found a new official Asus Bios that isn't even posted on Asus's website....ugh... Installed that and now everything works great! Can put in correct ram settings and everything. Running super smooth and fast.
Good news. So can I take it that based on your current experience with the Threadrippper system you would have no reluctance in recommending it as a general proposition?
I'm not clear on your explanation that removing the current four modules of RAM and "reseated the other four sticks" resolved the RAM frequency problem you previously indicated you ran into. What "other four sticks"?
I'm not clear on your explanation that removing the current four modules of RAM and "reseated the other four sticks" resolved the RAM frequency problem you previously indicated you ran into. What "other four sticks"?
I would highly recommend the Threadripper system, awesome and so fast for anything that needs the cores. Best thing is also that whenever they upgrade the threadripper chip to hopefully the full 32cores, it's just a plug and play unlike intel where you need a new board every time.
I have a full 8 modules of ram in the system, when things where going wonky freezing, crashing, 88% cpu utilization, etc. I read somewhere where the motherboard was having issues with more than 4 modules of certain ram. So I took out 4, and the other four I reseated to make sure they where seated right. Then everything worked great, so I added the other 4 modules and same thing, everything worked great. So I must of had a module not seated right and that's where all those issues came from. I still couldn't put the correct Ram settings in bios, but today there is a newer bios version 601, and that fixed the ram settings issue.
Hope this helps.
So far I have it OC to 3.8ghz on all cores and Ram at it's 3200, runs super fast.
I have a full 8 modules of ram in the system, when things where going wonky freezing, crashing, 88% cpu utilization, etc. I read somewhere where the motherboard was having issues with more than 4 modules of certain ram. So I took out 4, and the other four I reseated to make sure they where seated right. Then everything worked great, so I added the other 4 modules and same thing, everything worked great. So I must of had a module not seated right and that's where all those issues came from. I still couldn't put the correct Ram settings in bios, but today there is a newer bios version 601, and that fixed the ram settings issue.
Hope this helps.
So far I have it OC to 3.8ghz on all cores and Ram at it's 3200, runs super fast.
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