Ryzen 7 Superbuild - Opinions wanted.

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Hi

Just wanted to get some opinions on my build list...

CPU: Ryzen 7 1800X (OC to 4+ghz) $459.99

CPU Clr: ARCTIC - Liquid Freezer 360 $119.88

MB: Asus Crosshair VI Hero $233.99

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 64GB kit (16GBx4) $717.99

Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB SSD $429.99 + Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 8TB 7200RPM HDD $249.99

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080ti FTW3 $789.99x2 (Dual-Screen set up, not 2-way SLI)

PwrS: SeaSonic - PRIME Titanium 1000W 80+ Titanium $258.99

CASE: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 (Black+Silver) $238.99

DISC: Asus - BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer $109.88

OS: W10 Home 64-bit $99.89

Grand Total= $4,505.68

This build is a MONSTER, in terms of it's parts... and that price *shudders*

I wanted a build that could use everyday, do any daily stuff any average user would do, browse the web, etc. I also wanted to push a game to it's limits in terms of max graphics, high fps-60+, lots of modding with no lagging or mem issues. Pretty much saying no matter what i do to a game, almost nothing can slow me down.

This build might be extreme overkill even for what i plan to do, but i'm looking into the future, wanting a build where i wouldn't need a new build until the games and software demanded it which isn't anytime soon.

I currently have a Toshiba LT, with an AMD A8-6410 R5 Radeon Graphics and 1TB, so i barely meet the minimum requirements of Kerbal Space Program, but it gets the job done.

If there is anything you think i can change to improve or what ever, feel free to say anything, i'm not offended by constructive criticism.

Can't wait to see what ya'll say.
 
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Its about to be launched in a few weeks. Only the mobile versions have been launched as of now... https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/intel-14nm-coffee-lake-release-date

Edit: This is a tentative build, where the cpu and board will get replaced eventually if you decide to go with Coffee Lake. Just to give you a rough idea how to approach it...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($323.11 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - MAXIMUS IX CODE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($294.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB)...
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Splashing money on unnecessary parts doesnt guarantee it to last long. You can spend as much as you want but in the pc world, the longevity is directly proportional to the generation of tech. I would rather go for a more balanced build and save the rest of the money for incremental upgrades as and when required. Now since your primary concern is gaming and game modding, if I were you, I would wait for a few more weeks for the INtel next gen i7 processors, about to launch with 6 cores and 12 threads which should be more than enough core/thread wise but will rock better clocks and faster IPC for superior gaming performance.
 
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Chuck the CD driver. Just get a cheap external one. I mean seriously, who plays blu ray DVDs on their PC? Also, I would run those 1080TIs in SLI. If you don't, you won't see the performance gain. You can easily run 2 monitors off a single 1080ti.

I like the Strix X370-F gaming as much as the Crosshair. It also happens to be cheaper. Your choice.

Buy Team Delta RGB DDR4 or the Nighthawk version. You have an ASUS motherboard, make use of the fact you have Aura sync and can use other RGB RAM. I have the Delta in a rig. It looks just as good as the Trident Z and cost be like 2 bucks less per GB at least.
 
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Or just get Threadripper. Why pay the Intel tax at this point.
 
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Threadripper is not gaming cpu and doesnt have the kind of performance for gaming as required. Ryzen is better in gaming than threadripper.
 
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But the 1800X has 8 cores and 16 threads.
 
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Exactly, Ryzen is purpose built for anything i want to do and is almost $600 cheaper.
 
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Most games dont even use 4 cores and 8 threads fully. Leave alone 8 cores. It is still a far cry when games will utilize 6 cores fully.
 
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Fair point, i'll take note of that. I still don't want to have start a new build, figuring out compatible parts, and the unsolved Intel-Single core vs AMD-Multi core speed debate. I watched the reveal and saw the Ryzen 7 had a slight edge. Even if things are similar in price, if it's even SLIGHTLY better, that's what i'm choosing.
 
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It has a high enough core frequency (especially when adapting to the load distribution across 1-4 cores as most games use) to game more than admirably for the price. Besides, if OP ever wanted to do any content creation he definitely could. Granted my overclocked 1600 is chasing the heels of a 1800X in Cinebench, the difference is significant. It would definitely make a difference if OP wants to stream games or run broadcasting software at the same time.
 
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Which i do, thinking of YT'ing and Twitch, and Video Editing at 60fps 4k res.

 
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So, take a look at that Strix mobo, look at the Team Delta or Nighthawk and just get rid of the DVD burner. I removed mine from the system. It was an eyesore and honestly was used about -20 times per year.
 
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What about when it comes to disc-based games, i still have some?

 
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The disadvantage of higher core count specially with AMD is first IPC. Second, the higher core count the more heat, the less room for OCing. Today even a 7700k 4core/8thread cpu still smashes all benches gaming due to a specific reason, beside streaming twitching and content creation. That reason is better performance due to IPC supremacy and better scaling in games. What a threadripper will do in games, a Ryzen will do better. But what a Ryzen will do, the Coffee Lake chips will do even better.
So threadripper is out of question unless you are into high octane 3d modelling/game designing/engineering/rendering, so on and so forth. The logical choice over here would still be a Ryzen 1600/1600x. But when Itel comes out with the same core/thread count, it will smash not only single core speed but also multi core benches that AMD boasts right now. Remember, Ryzen with all its IPC and clock speeds is still behind Intel current gen, leave alone future gen.
 
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If i can find a site where i can have that Intel and figure out a build and compare them, i will consider an Intel build. I tried PC Partpicker, but when i build the computer, it says "Unable to find data" or something like that. When it come to OC core temps, that's why i tried to find the best LCU out there, and i think the one i listed takes the title.

 
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Its about to be launched in a few weeks. Only the mobile versions have been launched as of now... https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/intel-14nm-coffee-lake-release-date

Edit: This is a tentative build, where the cpu and board will get replaced eventually if you decide to go with Coffee Lake. Just to give you a rough idea how to approach it...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($323.11 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - MAXIMUS IX CODE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($294.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($163.99 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($163.99 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($118.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card ($739.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - Phantom 630 (Gunmetal) ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $2369.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-23 17:47 EDT-0400
 
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I'll take a look at that Intel, see it's wattage, price, and OC capabilities before i make a final decision. Plus, with the selected cooler, who knows how far i can OC and Intel or AMD cpu.
 
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I'll take that part list into consideration, thx.
 
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