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Hi,

Some games of have been suffering really bad stuttering despite me getting a bit of an upgrade recently. Mostly having issues with the new Hitman and Just Cause 3. And before I just went out splashing money about on different parts, I'd like to know the exact culprit behind the drops. My specs are as follows:

Intel i5 6400
GTX 1070
4GB DDR4 RAM

Any guidance would be much appreciated :)
 
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FabioXN7
I would recommend either a 4 or 8 GB stick from any of these brands - Corsair, Kingston HyperFX, G-Skill Ripjaws. I own a HyperFX Black 8GB one and it's really good. Also what is your current RAM brand.. you could also get another one from the same brand if it's the case.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/

Take a look here and do some comparison with the prices, change the region if it's the case as well because the price may vary a lot depending on the country. Just bear in mind the correct frequency of your current memory and what frequency does your motherboard supports so you won't have any surprises. :)
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1 - Whats your PSU brand and watt rate? (model)
2 - What architecture version you are currently running your Windows and what version is it? Windows 10 ? Windows 8? X86 ? X64

In case of X64 I would assume that 4 GB of RAM is not really enough for more intensive games like these one you are trying to play... maybe a upgrade to 8 or 16 GB would help with the stuttering.

But before buying anything, check if -

* CPU and GPU temps while gaming - You can use HWMonitor or MSI Afterburner for that.
* Try checking DISK usage in game. You can monitor using Windows Task Manager if it's at 100% it could be the cause.
* Try scanning the PC for threats or disabling Anti Viruses when gaming.
* Update the Graphics Card Driver with Geforce Experience.
 
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Not sure on the brand but it's 450W (not great with a 1070 I suppose). Also I'm running on windows 10 x64. I noticed that when playing hitman and checking task manager my cpu usage is fairly low (60% ish) however my memory usage is typically in the high 80%s. I was looking at getting more ram soon anyway but how significant would the boost be in terms of performance? Or would the main culprit be the power supply?
 
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You should have a good quality PSU, if you could get the brand name of your current PSU it would be easier to know if it's PSU related, also I don't know everything you have inside your Case, how many fans, hds, ssds, etc so the best way to know how many Watts you need to better suit your case components is by using a Watt calc like this http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/. But as by my own experience, I would recommend something around 550W for this spec because sometimes both GPU and CPU depending on the game could consume much more power than normal.

Now regarding your question the boost would be related to your computer not running out of RAM and for improving the loading performance by disk caching and avoiding freezing due to virtual memory swapping which is pretty common to happen and it's basically one of the main reasons for stuttering. You can take GTA V as an example of that, running the game with only 4GBs will cause extreme stuttering after playing for a while, the game uses more than 4 GB and when that limit is almost reached it starts to use the page file / virtual memory.

Now the only way to know who the culprit is by either testing with a better PSU or getting another 4 GB of RAM, if you don't want to buy it straight away, you could borrow from someone you know who has it a good 4 GB stick from a quality brand.

In this case I don't think the PSU would be the problem here because there are only two answers for it.. it works or it doesn't, if your PSU was the real problem your PC would become unresponsive or at least some of these components would (CPU, GPU), also if it was the PSU your PC would turn it off itself while ingame due lack of power or juice. So try borrowing some more RAM.
 
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goby123

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Yeah I just checked the power supply calculator and the recommended wattage is lower than my PSU so I think it should be okay in that regard, in terms of ram, how much do you think I should be spending on a decent quality stick of 8GB? Money isn't a huge issue but if possible I'd like to be a little bit frugal. I don't really have anyone to borrow ram from and I was thinking of buying some on the weekend anyway. Thank you for the in depth explanations by the way. Not all heroes wear capes! :)
 
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I would recommend either a 4 or 8 GB stick from any of these brands - Corsair, Kingston HyperFX, G-Skill Ripjaws. I own a HyperFX Black 8GB one and it's really good. Also what is your current RAM brand.. you could also get another one from the same brand if it's the case.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/

Take a look here and do some comparison with the prices, change the region if it's the case as well because the price may vary a lot depending on the country. Just bear in mind the correct frequency of your current memory and what frequency does your motherboard supports so you won't have any surprises. :)
 
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Yes, ram at 8gb needed but the main issue is that processor for just cause 3. As someone who has logged 50hours in that game I can tell you that really an i7 is needed to eliminate drops. An overlcocked i5 is ok,. But a non oc mid range i5 will struggle. It just will. You'll see CPU usage at 100% most of the time.
 
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okay cool, I'm not great with processors I just know that all cpu's don't fit all motherboards, do you think an i7 7700 would be compatible with an Intel H170 mobo?
 
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As long as you are not buying the "K" version of the 7700 you'll be good with a H170 if you are on budget. Otherwise if you would ever want to do OC for any reason and buy the K version then you should get a z270.
 
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