What should i upgrade next or should i just wait???

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spidey2113

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Computer Specs:
Case: Commander G41 Mid Tower Case, Black
Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750Ti
CPU: i5-4460
Mother Board: Gigabyte h97m-d3h
Power Supply: Smart 650W bronze
Ram: DDR3-1600 Ripjaws 8gb or 4gb x2
Drives: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250gb for my OS which is windows 10
And i have a WD Black 1 TB drive
Wireless adapter: D-link AC1200 Dual Band PCI express adapter

I want to upgrade i can run most games fine but on low quality or medium depending the game and just want that extra boost. I was think of a Asus GTX 1060 cause its not bad on the price and its much better then what i have now. I was also thinking about new mother board and possibly ram but i might just stick with the ram i have now if you guys have any suggested mother boards that are not to pricey. Thank you for any help that is given. (ps. i mostly game on this computer)

 
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constantine_99

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Haswell CPU are still pretty capable nowdays, u won't have to upgrade just yet.
depending on the budget:
if u don't mind the extra cost since 1060 are affected by mining craze, by all means, go for it
but if u have a pretty shallow wallet (like me) i really suggest the 1050ti instead, performance wise - it only halves the 1060 performance, but it's still a pretty decent upgrade form 750ti (u can search on youtube for the comparisons)

later on when u upgrade, im afraid u had to ditch your RAM too, as new gens only supports DDR4 nowdays, but when u go for the upgrade, i really suggest the Ryzen, which offers better price / performance, even against coffelake (based on the speculation that shows up nowdays, it might change after the product is released, so u can just wait and see how it goes, and buy the one that offers better price/performance)
 
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No need to upgrade unless your pc is not doing the job for you.

You have a relatively well balanced cpu/gpu pc now.

If you think you want more, here are some things to do:

Some games are graphics limited like fast action shooters.
Others are cpu core speed limited like strategy, sims, and mmo.
Multiplayer with many participants tend to like many threads.

You need to find out which.
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To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one or more cores/threads. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of threads to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.



It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system,
and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
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@geofelt
I won't say it's balanced (in it's time, perhaps it's true), the GPU are pretty lacking for the AAA titles these days, and his CPU is still capable of handling a stronger GPU like 1050ti and perhaps even the 1060
@OP
while geofelt is true all the way, here's the thing:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2400/2310vs803
it's obvious that GPU is the one holding it back, i have an i5-2400 + 1050ti and the system are pretty much balanced, except on CPU demanding title like GTA V and such. (where more capable core/threads will work better)
after the GPU upgrade, u will be able to crank the settings up
but on CPU demanding title, some of the performance increase will be bottlenecked by your CPU
if u're planning on upgrade, u can stil upgrade to something like i7 4770 and it will still perform pretty decent for the next 2-3 years, but, it's better to just save up and get a new rig altogether.

in the end, it depends on the type of games u want to play, but a GPU upgrade will boost your performance, bottlenecked or not.
 
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constantine_99

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@OP
here's another suggestion:
just sell the i5 + 750ti as a whole rig, and u can use the money u get from selling it to buy a new build (something like ryzen 5 rig perhaps) however, u should done this once u save up some money by yourself too, coz obviously selling that rig won't be enough to cover the new rig's price
 
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spidey2113

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I have money saved up right now i plan on upgrading then selling them after words and dont really want to build a whole new rig i really like what i have started with i just think its time to give this baby some new parts and thank you for everyone replying its really helping me understand what i should upgrade. The more the info the better thanks everyone for the help :)
 
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constantine_99

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if u wait too long, the price will keep going down as the new gen arrives, however, selling ur rig / keeping it is entirely up to you
upgrade path for this rig:
i7 4770 non-K
with i7, i think your rig can handle up to GTX 1080 / RX Vega 64 just fine (there might be slight bottleneck, but overall, it's fine)

without upgrading CPU:
1050ti / 1060 (might have slight bottleneck with this one) is your best bet

upgrading GPU: watch the prices, i suggest the 1050ti for now, but if u can find the higher tier GPU at a good price, u can grab it :)
1050ti MSRP = 140$
1060 6GB MSRP = 220$
1070 MSRP = 400$
 
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Now a question to all should i upgrade mother boards? to be honest i don't know much about my current one right now and dont know if it is an okay one bad one or really good one and if you could shed some light of knowledge for me.

 
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dunno about the condition but i'll say it's pretty good, but the thing is, that mobo doesn't support overclock, meaning u can't get an unlocked CPU
while it's enough, overclocking usually can make parts able to last a few extra years without needing replacement (in terms of performance and bottleneck)
 
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