ryzen 5 1600 or i5 7600K build to upgrade from fx6300

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Roosevelt_2003

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ryzen 5 1600 or i5 7600K build

Hello guys,
I need some help here :D I want to build a gaming pc using Ryzen 5 1600 or i5 7600K
I will use it mainly for gaming/internet/Netflix my actual build is 4 years old:
FX 6300
cooler master hyper 212 Evo
Asrock 970 Extreme3 R2.0
Adata DDR3 Dual 8GB
Kingston MLC SSD 480 GB (1-Year-Old)
Seagate 2 TB
Radeon R9 390 GAMING 8G (I bought it 1.5 years ago)
PSU XFX Pro series 850W 80+ Bronze (Japanese capacitors)

As you can see I’m not expending a lot of money usually in hardware components but lately every time I’m playing Fallout 4 (with a lot of mods) or TW Warhammer it gets really hot and noisy, I can only play for 2 hours without getting annoy with the sound of the PC so I guess is because of the old CPU.
I was ready to buy the i5 7600k and make a build around this CPU (looks pretty solid in all the reviews)
But then Ryzen 5 1600 came and in YouTube there a lot to videos showing the FPS almost the same as i5 7600K but with the CPU at 50%-60% this is the good thing, the bad thing all the problems with the DDR4 (compatibility issues and not reaching the correct memory speed).

Now those are the questions:
I want to spend around 600 USD in a new CPU+MOBO+RAM, I think the rest can be reused, what would be your recommendation for the CPU+mobo+ram (I want it to last maybe other 4 years) and I will never use crossfire or SLI?

I’m currently living in Poland so prices are higher than in the US here and example of the prices:

Ryzen 1600 = 245.73 US Dollar
I5 7600K = 274.89 US Dollar


16 GB Ram 3200 =
- G.Skill Flare X 16GB DDR4 (F43200C14D16GFX) 248.68 US Dollar
- Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) 190.00 US Dollar


16 GB Ram 2400 =
ADATA XPG Z1 (2x8GB) DDR4 2400MHz CL16 (AX4U240038G16DRZ) 169.48 US Dollar
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2x8GB 2400MHz CL14 CMK16GX4M2A2400C14R 184.33 US Dollar


Motherboard = ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS 116.84 US Dollar
Asus Prime Z270-P 140.00 US Dollar

Many thanks for the help :)
 
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While the Core i7 Processors do have sizable performance advantages over the R7 processors, It's different with the mid-range processors. Based on my understanding, the R5 processors can go toe-to-toe with the core i5 even in single threaded games. You'll also get the benefit of far superior performance within productivity apps. In that area, it even beats the i7 7700k by sizable margins.

You mention that you want the system to last for the next 4 years. I should note that PC game optimization usually follows trends set by intel. For the past several years the trend has been high clocked quad cores. It seems as though Ryzen is finally pushing them towards hexa and octa cores, so I would put my bets on the R5 1600 being better for...
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If this build is for straight gaming (nothing for workstation), then there is no point of getting Ryzen 5 1600. Intel's Kaby Lake processors beat Ryzen in any single-threaded game (difference of 10–60 FPS in 1080p)—only by overclocking does the R5 1600 come close to Kaby Lake's performance.

Intel processors benefit less from higher frequency RAM (unlike Ryzen), so 2400MHz would be good (though the difference of $5.67 makes me lean towards the 3200MHz one). The motherboard is decent, and would do you a big favor in overclocking.
 
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All of the RAM issues that Ryzen initially came out with have basically been fixed, as well as most of the problems associated with Ryzen.

Gahl1k is right, but any tech enthusiast will basically always recommend the R5 1600. If you're going for pure gaming only, and use your system for literally nothing else, then you might as well go i5. But I have a feeling that won't be the case, because most home systems don't end up being 100% gaming.

For 100% gaming and nothing else, go i5 7600k. For pretty much anything else, you would want to go R5 1600. For me, the performance difference during gaming is negligible, especially during overclocking, for a massive boost in every other department. Just depends on how your system is going to play out.
 
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While the Core i7 Processors do have sizable performance advantages over the R7 processors, It's different with the mid-range processors. Based on my understanding, the R5 processors can go toe-to-toe with the core i5 even in single threaded games. You'll also get the benefit of far superior performance within productivity apps. In that area, it even beats the i7 7700k by sizable margins.

You mention that you want the system to last for the next 4 years. I should note that PC game optimization usually follows trends set by intel. For the past several years the trend has been high clocked quad cores. It seems as though Ryzen is finally pushing them towards hexa and octa cores, so I would put my bets on the R5 1600 being better for the long term. Its simply a better overall CPU.

I recommend reading the article below. It'll tell you everything you need to know:

https://www.techspot.com/article/1381-ryzen-1600x-vs-1600/

 
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For the noise the R9 390 is known for running hot, you might need to improve your case cooling.
I would get the 6 core 12 thread processor it already helps in BF1 multiplayer.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($226.59 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $493.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-24 10:00 EDT-0400
 
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Also its good future proof platform. AM4 is here to stay where intel is changing sockets once again this year...
 
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Thank you guys for taking the time to help me with this, once again I was almost ready to choose Intel i5 over the Ryzen, but I have read that the new Coffe lake will use a different chipset (300) and AMD4 CPU architecture will last until 2020, I guess I'll take the "risk" and try with AMD, only last questions:

Ryzen gets a lot of benefits from the RAM, this is the RAM from Corsair Compatible with Ryzen:

CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 16GB DDR4 (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15R) 174.25 US Dollar (price in Poland)

do you think it would be a good choice?

And regarding the MOBO the Chipset B350 are all with similar prices 20$ +o- what would be the best?
 
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You only need to get the ram running at 2666mhz to offer great performance - too much has been made of the gain going from 2666 to 2933/3200 MHz.
Its literally 5-6 fps in the upper echelons of over 100fps

If you're not using a 144htz monitor it makes no difference.

I'm not sure where Gahl1k got from between 10-60fps gain on a 7600k at all - more like 10% generally - once again on a 60htz screen this means absolutely nothing at all.

B350 boards?? Little difference , the asus prime you listed is fine , the asrock pro 4 which is what I use , & the MSI mortar or PC mate (if you can put up with the lack of sata ports on the cheaper MSI boards) are all fine fairly budget boards .

You're making the right choice with the ryzen - don't buy the 1600x , its not worth the extra over the 1600 IMO
 
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