Gigabyte GA-EP43T-S3L or Gigabyte GA-EP43T-UD3L in overclocking cpu and RAM?

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Hey guys,
I have 2 questions am gonna post them in 2 points and I hope u answer them in ponts (1: etc. 2:etc.)..
1: I have an intel core 2 duo E8500 3.16 GHZ cpu and I want to oc it to reach 4.0-4.5 GHZ for better gaming performance probably but I couldn't oc it much since I was using a G41 gigabyte motherboard (only allowed me to oc it up to 3.26GHZ, then it fails to boot if I inc. freq. even if I also inc. cpu voltage) and I found these 2 motherboards and I checked them in gigabyte site and both of them have " Hardware OverVoltage Control IC-- Enabling Extreme Overclocking" but am still wondering which of them will be better in ocing a core 2 E8500?? am seeing the Gigabyte GA-EP43T-UD3L having better and bigger heat sink in the north and south bridges so is it better in ocing for temperature or it's not measured like that? or they won't oc the cpu up to that frequency?
2: I read a comment in this forum on another thread saying " If you're looking for gaming performance, overclocking the CPU isn't going to help. " so does ocing the cpu won't inc. any gaming performance? bec. of so, then I won't need to buy any of these 2 boards.
URL of board EP43T-S3L: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-Gigabyte-GA-EP43T-S3L-Original-Used-Desktop-Motherboard-EP43T-S3L-For-Intel-P43-Socket-LGA/32787870721.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000013.1.4b24ae2bIkhUJp&traffic_analysisId=recommend_2088_1_82199_new&scm=1007.13339.82199.0&pvid=4cd7b87d-528c-44c4-b369-b3e5c5419a43&tpp=1
URL of board EP43T-UD3L: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Used-original-for-Gigabyte-GA-EP43T-UD3L-DDR3-LGA775-775-motherboard-EP43T-UD3L-Desktop-Boards/32780857333.html?spm=2114.search0306.4.23.UIjm5w
Thanks <3
 
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Some games scale, some don't. In general, the FSB architecture and low memory bandwidth of Core 2 limits its performance in games. If you run that E8500 at 473MHz FSB and memory at DDR2-946 it will help a lot. There's no point running a higher memory multiplier than 2 as the FSB will just be the bottleneck then.

The latest games that use 4 threads will struggle, and some won't even launch without a hack. But most games only run 1 or 2 threads which will fly at 4.5GHz if you can get there. Note the games that require the most CPU power are simulations like Flight Simulators, and most other game types lean more heavily on the GPU which is why you often don't see much scaling--because the GPU is usually the bottleneck.
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The UD3L generally has better components and more phases than the S3L, and while you can see that UD3L has nice polymer caps in place of the S3L's electrolytics, both have a 4-phase CPU power VRM. The UD3L does have a slightly larger chipset heatsink too.

Is there a reason you don't want to spend the $2 more for a P45 board? The P45 and P43 chipsets are identical except for the official support for DDR2-1333 instead of 1066, and x8/x8 crossfire suggest they are binned by Intel. Gigabyte has settings for overclocking the memory of both to 1600 but you may have more success or require less voltage with P45.
 
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it's not about money, u know it's almost impossible to find a P45 board online now since am already in Egypt too and not every online sites ships to egypt except amazon and aliexpress, they both ships but many others don't and i couldn't find a site who has P45 and still ships to egypt too, I only found these 2 and some bunch of other boards of G41 model which i don't need,, But still does ocing cpu won't help in inc. gaming performance?
 
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I gave you a link to a P45-UD3L board from the very same store as your two P43 links, only US$2.27 more than the P43-UD3L and with 987 pieces in stock. The dropdown box shows Egypt as one of the shipping options.

OC helps a lot. A Core 2 Quad above 4GHz is as fast as a Sandy/Ivy i3 or a low-power modern i3 in most applications. The main thing is it uses >200w so you'd better have good cooling. And regardless of the size of the northbridge heatsink, it must have a fan pointed at it above 400MHz FSB because it's rated 26w already at the stock 333.
 
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am already using liquid cooling with bunch of cooler master Jet Flo fans blue LED (that Jet Flo is CRAZY at max. speed) , cooler master sickle flow blue and cooler master xtra flow black all running at max. speeds and pump also at max. speed, am using cooler master N200 pc case.
but does really ocing a cpu won't inc. gaming performance?
 
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Some games scale, some don't. In general, the FSB architecture and low memory bandwidth of Core 2 limits its performance in games. If you run that E8500 at 473MHz FSB and memory at DDR2-946 it will help a lot. There's no point running a higher memory multiplier than 2 as the FSB will just be the bottleneck then.

The latest games that use 4 threads will struggle, and some won't even launch without a hack. But most games only run 1 or 2 threads which will fly at 4.5GHz if you can get there. Note the games that require the most CPU power are simulations like Flight Simulators, and most other game types lean more heavily on the GPU which is why you often don't see much scaling--because the GPU is usually the bottleneck.
 
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