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Guys please advice me on whether should I buy Ryzen 1700x or Core i7 7700k (they are of the same price in my country). I use the pc mostly for gaming do very little picture editing.The problem that gets me to consider Ryzen is that:
1) The games in future may use multi threading which will given ryzen an advantage over the Core i7
2) The current games will be better optimized for AMD after receiving Bios and Game updates
3) The temperature problems that I have heard for 7700K
4) The fear that Intel processors getting outdated(not by a much but still) with every new generation they release.

The reason to consider Intel is:
1) Intel has superior clock speed and a much better single threaded performance which results in an increase in gaming performance over the AMD
2) There is no concrete evidence that the games in future will use multiple threads and even if that is the case I believe that they will be optimized for Intel CPU.

I cannot wait for coffee lake.
 
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Either chip is a high-end CPU that will serve you well. If you plan to have a good CPU cooler and a well-ventilated case, then your i7 will probably be okay. Unlike geofelt, above, I don't think the issues are overblown. Intel has seriously dropped the ball with the thermal dynamics of the Kaby Lake line. As a leading manufacturer, they should be a little embarrassed. Needless to say, I would choose the Ryzen. But that is just a personal preference.

You didn't mention your choice of GPU, which may make your choice moot. If you choose a GTX 1050, the GPU will bottleneck for either processor. If you're going for a GTX 1080, then maybe you need to worry about the finer difference between the 7700K and 1700x.
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Here is a recent test of several games comparing a Intel I7-7800X(12 threads) to a I7-7700K(8 threads)
https://www.techspot.com/review/1445-core-i7-7800x-vs-7700k/
Bottom line is the extra threads make no difference, the slightly higher IPC of the 7700K made it equal or better in all cases.

Actually, few games today can actually effectively use more than 2-3 threads. Game developers will not sell many games that need more than 4 or 8 threads to run.

7700K heat problems are overblown.
If you have a decent case with at least 2 front 120/140mm intake fans, you can run an overclocked 7700K as well as a GTX1080ti.
7700K is a 91w TDP processor.
Here is a nice compatibility chart from noctua:
http://noctua.at/en/tdp-guide
Noctua NH-U14s or NH-D15s or equivalent will do the job.

As to overclocking 7700K, how high you can go will be determined by your luck in getting a good chip.
Your limit will be the vcore you can tolerate.
As of 6/9/17
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane 1.4v Vcore.

I7-7700K
4.9 83%
5.0 62%
5.1 29%
5.2 6%


FWIW

 
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Either chip is a high-end CPU that will serve you well. If you plan to have a good CPU cooler and a well-ventilated case, then your i7 will probably be okay. Unlike geofelt, above, I don't think the issues are overblown. Intel has seriously dropped the ball with the thermal dynamics of the Kaby Lake line. As a leading manufacturer, they should be a little embarrassed. Needless to say, I would choose the Ryzen. But that is just a personal preference.

You didn't mention your choice of GPU, which may make your choice moot. If you choose a GTX 1050, the GPU will bottleneck for either processor. If you're going for a GTX 1080, then maybe you need to worry about the finer difference between the 7700K and 1700x.
 
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Currently Ryzen is dominating intel, specifically for multi tasking, streaming and gaming. This due to their additional cores. I have a 1600 and oh my, the performance at the max. Saying this I could not believe the future a 1700(x) would hold as a matter of fact this processor is new, and intel i7's have been around for quite a while.
 
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While enthusiasts may be disappointed that Intel isn't making any efforts to make higher overclocks more readily achievable, Intel is under no obligation to do so and has nothing to be embarrassed about since the chips do work perfectly fine within the thermal and power design envelopes they were designed for.

It isn't as if Ryzen's soldered IHS managed to produce a supreme overclocker that Intel needs to worry about either.
 
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my case is nzxt s340 elite and I already have the NZXT Kraken x42 cooler.I will probably be pairing it with the gtx1070/1080 or Vega 56 will be gaming at1080(may upgrade to 1440p in future).

 
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nzxt s340 elite is a very nice case. Put two 140mm fans in front with a filter.
Your parts will stay clean and you will have enough fresh air for any set of parts inside.

Since you already have a 140mm X42 cooler, I would mount it at the top taking air from inside the case and sending heat out the top.

Any stronger exhaust will draw in unfiltered air from other openings, reducing the cleaning effect of your front positive pressure system.

 
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My idea of pairing is like this kraken in the front (Pull configuration) and a 140mm fan for intake and exhaust at the top(140 mm) and back(120mm). Is this good cannot put kraken at the top because of aesthetic purposes.
 
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