SumTingW0ng :
Cioby :
I'd love to see you back that <mod edit> you spilled here with actual proof or facts. Since even the Ryzens that were given to reviewers were below the 4790k at stock speeds in gaming. In more than one review. But please, do indulge us by talking out of your <mod edit>. And the 1700 and 1800 are still a lot above the i7 in my country, even on sale.
And if a 4 year old CPU that still runs and beats mostly everything and can actually be OC to 5.0 even now, beats the Ryzen, I see no reason for a person with half a brain that's only interested in GAMING, to buy anything else.
In fact if he wants to upgrade that old system and has DDR 3 and doesn't wanna buy new RAM also, he could just get the 4790k and use the same RAMs. If you're defending AMD AT GAMING, still, then you must also be one of those idiots that still claim after 2 years of drivers and <mod edit>, Vega will beat 1080ti. Please just stop embarrassing yourself, I was right a year ago about Vega.
If you have i7 7700k @ 4.5Ghz vs Ryzen 1700X @ 4.5Ghz, than Ryzen 1700x will beat i7 7700k in every ways from gaming to heavy multi tasking, and to rendering thanks to the 8 cores, 16 threads, and 16MB L3 Cache for under $500. That's less expensive than the Haswell E 5960X.
i7 7700k suffer TIM issue as the previous i7 4790k, and both of these two chips run very hot.
While we do appreciate that you have some knowledge behind your post, but please restrain your attitude and language please. Not everyone here is smart, and everyone of us do make a mistake sometimes and that is common for human being.
Without AMD on the market, you couldn't afford an i7 4790k or i7 7700k at all without spending $500+.
I'm going to play the devil's advocate here. I like AMD and the fact that they're keeping prices down. I like lots of cores.
But for gaming, the 7700k absolutely crushes Ryzen 7.
Even if they were both at 4.5GHz, the Intel would still take the crown in most games thanks to 5% higher IPC.
That's assuming you can even get a Ryzen 7 to 4.5GHz (hint- you really can't unless you're lucky and have top of the line cooling) and that the Intel chip is actually at 4.5GHz- (The majority of chips can get to 5GHz).
Intel still takes the crown in gaming, so if that's all OP is looking for a 7700k is a good option right now. The heat issues are overblown.
But a 7700k at 5GHz will pull ahead of a Ryzen 7 by about 35% in most games. If your target is 144hz, that's a big deal.
If your target is only 60hz it really doesn't matter what CPU you get, most of them will hit that target with ease.
If you're streaming a Ryzen chip is the obvious choice. If you're doing video editing it is the obvious choice.
But for the majority of people that build their PCs for gaming Intel is still going to pull ahead.