Building my first PC Gaming rig

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Good day everyone,

I've finally made it and am about to realize one of my childhood dreams of being able to buy and build my very own Gaming PC. Needless to say everyone's situation is different, from my perspective I've always had to rely on saving money and asking for money for a few years. But now that I have a decent job and can save efficiently, I thought it was about time to finally do this. Budget wise I'm considering anything between $2,000 - $2,500 US converted. (I'm using New Zealand dollar as I am in NZ (some components also aren't available here)) Here's a rough draft of what my rig will contain and I might ask a few questions in between as I am fairly new to this and even though I watch a lot of the gaming rig assemblies and what not, it ends up differently when you're the actual one doing it.

Motherboard : ASUS ROG Strix H270F Gaming ATX (For Intel Kaby Lake LGA 1151 CPU)
CPU : Intel Kaby Lake Core i7 7700K Quad Core 4.2Ghz 8MB LGA 1151 4 Core/8 Thread
Cooler : NZXT Kraken x62 AIO 280MM RGB
GPU : EVGA GeForce GTX 1080Ti SC Black edition, 11GB GDDR5X, iCX Cooler and LED
RAM : G.Skill Trident Z RGB F4-3000C15D-16GTZR, 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4, 3000Mhz, 15-16-16-35
PSU : EVGA SuperNOVA 650W G3 80+ Gold Full Modular power supply
SSD/SATA : Samsung 850 EVO MZ-75E250BW 250GB / Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM
Case : Phanteks Eclipse P400S (Mid tower)

A few questions regarding this if it's alright:


1. Are the Motherboard, CPU and GPU in a way balanced? I'm not sure how to put it but like I do know that the CPU and GPU that I'm going to be using are quite decent (I don't like to use the word high-end as there is bound to be something better than this) and I had trouble looking for a Motherboard that isn't too pricey at the same time quite good. I know that sounds weird but I always had this mindset of choosing better CPUs and GPUs over really expensive Motherboards.

2. Will the cooler I'll be using (NZXT Kraken x62 280MM) fit the case if I put it parallel to the front nose of the case (where you can put up to 3 fans in the front?) and if we can include the entirety of my other components would it be a snug fit? Speaking of fans should I also purchase extra 2-3 120mm or 140mm fans? I watched Linus' video about positive and negative air pressure but I'm still somewhat confused as to the ratio of fans I need, where to put them for max efficiency and how big they should be. I know the specs say how big the actual case is and all but when you start putting different things inside it turns into a different story, although that doesn't apply to everything, I myself have no prior experience in building an actual PC from the inside out.


3. Power supply... I checked this website https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator that asks you to input your setup pretty much and it'll calculate the power you'll be needing and I got around ~528W. That had 5 140mm fans (I included the 2 that comes along with the cooler, and 3 extra fans I'll be buying), and 2 12" LED strip lights in case I get them. Would the 650W support all of this? I'll be buying a power strip that has decent a surge protector as well.

Anddddd, those are all the questions I can think of right now that are bugging me quite a bit. I would definitely appreciate it if you guys can leave your thoughts, advices, and feedback regarding this post. I know someone might have already asked this question, and I've browsed through a couple of threads on my way to making this but I feel like some of them I just really have to ask. If you guys have any suggestions or see something that could be improved feel free to share it as I'm all ears right now. Thanks everyone and more power to Tom's Hardware.
 
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1. There's no reason to get a K processor and pair it with any other board than a Z270. Either drop to the 7700 or get a board with the Z270 chipset. That AIO can get the CPU overclocked with no problems, so better step up the motherboard.
2. That case supports up to 280mm radiators on the front, so you're good.
3. EVGA Supernova PSUs are excellent, no complaints there.

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1. There's no reason to get a K processor and pair it with any other board than a Z270. Either drop to the 7700 or get a board with the Z270 chipset. That AIO can get the CPU overclocked with no problems, so better step up the motherboard.
2. That case supports up to 280mm radiators on the front, so you're good.
3. EVGA Supernova PSUs are excellent, no complaints there.
 
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So would a ASRock Z270 Extreme4 Intel Z270 Chipset suffice for this? or should I go with ASUS ROG STRIX H270F Gaming ATX For Intel Kaby Lake LGA1151 CPU? I'm not entirely sure if they have differences aside from the manufacturer but as far as amazon reviews are concerned (I know they aren't always right, but hey I needed reference) they're both pretty good and ASRock is looking good to me. But ASUS as a brand is legit so I kinda trust their products. I don't think I've ever bought ASRock components in a while.

Edit: Forgot to ask, why should the 7700k be paired with the Z270 by the way? Does it activate some sort of feature or maximize the actual CPU? Sorry I have no clue why.
 

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The difference is in the chipset name (H versus Z), of which only Z allows overclocking. Asus boards are very good, you could be looking at the Maximus IX Hero which is the top-of-the-line no compromises model, or the Prime Z270-A if you want a lower tier but still great board.
Be aware though, that currently the Kaby Lake platform offers no upgrade path, so a 7700K is the best performance you're going to get. It might be good now, but if you want to upgrade your CPU later, you'll have to get a new motherboard as well.
 

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I'm not much of a PC Builder/Enthusiast. I do however like it to look really cool with the RGBs and perform really well. But it's unlikely that I'll have to shift over to new GPUs/CPUs as I'm not really that well versed in PC building and from the costs of building "updated" gaming rigs with the very latest GPUs/CPUs that come out it can get a bit pricey. I'll go for the ASUS Strix Z720H, no problem. Is there some sort of lifespan to these gaming pc rigs? Like mine for example, would you give it a good 4 years or more?

Having said all that what would be your recommendation in choosing a CPU/motherboard right now if you were to buy one? (Hopefully it's within the price range) Thanks a lot Kahou!
 

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Right now it's impossible to say. IMO, since the launch of Ryzen, quad cores are becoming obsolete just as dual cores did a few years back. I switched from a 6700K to a 1700X to quarantee that I get a robust platform that I can rely on in the future. The roadmap for the AM4 platform is at least 4 years long, and includes at least two new generations of Zen processors.
This all really depends on the consumers. Either people buy Intel and keep the gaming industry stagnated and reliant on single-thread performance, or they can choose AMD and be a part of a paradigm shift from single-core to multicore gaming.
I also have somewhat lost faith in the Lake cores. All that intel has been able of doing since the 6700K is just pumping clockspeeds up and selling it as a "new generation". Coffee Lake includes the first hexa-core consumer CPU, yes, but seems that this chip just two extra lake cores shoved onto it. Intel has just about squeezed everything they can out of Lake and I think that the company is unreliable in the future at best.
Don't get me wrong, quad cores are still relevant this year and I would have stayed with Intel unless I hadn't watched this video. It made me feel disgusted for giving money to them.

I'd give the Lake series two years of life at best, until hexacores and octacores outrun them.
 

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I'm watching the video right now. It seems legit. This is probably gonna be my last question but the most important one. If in case I decide to try AMD components, and so on what would I be buying and replacing? I don't know what's compatible with what and so on.If you can give me an idea of how to look at this when I build my rig behind AMD I would really appreciate it. Thanks again kahou!
 

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Looking up components with similar prices to the ones you listed from Ascent, I'd recommend:
Asus Prime x370 Pro for 266$nz

As for the CPU, I can see the 7700K listed for ~550$nz, so you've got a choice:
Either the R7 1700 (8 cores 16 threads) for approximately the same price, or the R5 1600 (6 cores 12 threads) for 380$nz.

Everything else works fine and doesn't need replacing.
You might also be able to push that RAM a bit, I've got the same kit but 16G sticks and they run nicely at 14-14-14-32 latencies, 2933mhz.
 

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Hmm, I've watched a couple of youtube videos about R7 1800x it seems pretty good, even the 1700. What I forgot to ask was about the fans along with the positive and negative air pressure mumbo jumbo. I doubt me getting the i7 or R7 1700x would change the number of fans I should get and where to place them. Do you have any idea about the fan placements and how many fans I need? 120mm or 140mm? Thanks again >.<
 

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Try to have one more fan as an intake than exhaust, or run the exhausts at lower rpm. Mount the rad in the front and one 120mm in the back and a single 140mm at the top. The other 140mm fan mount at the top is only relevant if you're putting a custom waterloop in the case with a 360 rad at the front. Here is a quick explanation.
 

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So basically I can go 2 140mm fans infront of the radiator grills (front CPU section), and a 1 140mm at the top back? Would adding the extra 140mm at the top above the CPU be beneficial or should I just stick with the first 3 fans? Thanks

Edit: I just watched/researched a bit about the up and coming Coffee Lake. I'm planning on building my PC around November 23, Black Friday in New Zealand. A bit of discount seems pretty good, and I've waited for this for a few years now so a few months won't hurt. I just hope we can import those new Coffee Lake CPUs so I can get my hands on them on November. They did say it has a potential October release, so hopefully fingers crossed a few stocks get sent here!