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hi all i currently have an intel i7-6700k and am in the market to upgrade,even though this setup i have isnt that old,i only use a single 1080ti gpu for now but would like the ability to run a second if needed in the future,but the cpu i use now only has the 16 lanes and i really dont want to run an 8x8 when i could run a 16x16,plus i also have a nvme m,2 running at with 4x so i will need a higher laned cpu.so what is the options i have? im not very impressed with the new intels or the ryzen really,but i need one of them,ill be replacing the ram i have with better frequency ram,so ill be buying new mobo,ram and the cpu..just need a shove in the right direction,i mainly game,core count isnt important to me i know 4 cores are plenty for gaming and pretty much the better option right now,so maybe the 7700k? idk thanks for the help!

also i do like to overclock my cpu's i run my 6700k at 4.6ghz everday all day,i use a custom water loop also though.
 
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Just wait. There is literally no upgrade for you a 7700k is exactly the same performance clock for clock, it's just an overclocked skylake that typically has a slightly higher oc potential. They will be releasing a 6c12t i7 soon for the next mainstream line. It'll likely not be an upgrade either but at least you'll get something for your money. BTW 8x is about a 2-3% bottleneck to a 1080ti once you put sli in the mix neither card is fully utilized so I don't know that there's been any performance gain from more lanes. There are also chipset lanes that run nvme stuff
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You dont need to upgrade your processor.
Even the 1080Ti wont fully saturate the x8 lane, so you realistically would not lose any sort of performance by using the 16 lane processor.
The NVMe drive is connected through the motherboard chipset, not the processor, so it runs on the motherboards PCIe lanes.
 
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I don't think you'll see much of an impact using 2x x8 vs 2x x16 on a newer CPU/chipset.
Your M.2 x4 should run from the chipset, in addition to the lanes from the CPU.

Honestly, I don't see any need to upgrade anything major there at all. The gains from the added PCIe lanes (which you won't get from a 7700K) and the bit of a clock speed boost are never going to justify the outlay.
 
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Just wait. There is literally no upgrade for you a 7700k is exactly the same performance clock for clock, it's just an overclocked skylake that typically has a slightly higher oc potential. They will be releasing a 6c12t i7 soon for the next mainstream line. It'll likely not be an upgrade either but at least you'll get something for your money. BTW 8x is about a 2-3% bottleneck to a 1080ti once you put sli in the mix neither card is fully utilized so I don't know that there's been any performance gain from more lanes. There are also chipset lanes that run nvme stuff
 
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ok yeah i was thinking there wasnt an upgrade,kida dissapointing really,i enjoy builing a new computer every few years but only if theres a real benefit
so im guessing the newer ryzens arent a performance upgrade either?
 
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Added Cores/Threads with a lower IPC. Unless you need the added cores/threads (and coming from a fairly modern i7, you should be fine), I doubt it.
More PCIe lanes available IIRC, but as has been mentioned, that's not going to net you any gains really.
 
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For gaming the Ryzens are not an upgrade more like a downgrade for you.
 
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Purely gaming they're a downgrade, video editing or streaming while playing on one pc they can be close or better in some cases. Anything capable of using 16threads they'll smash an i7, but most stuff still can't. I recommend the r5 1600 very often, but in your case it'd be a downgrade
 
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While I agree overall, if the OP is considering SLI 1080TI's, I'd really hope they were gaming at 4K and, at that resolution, the lower IPC of Ryzen probably shouldn't reduce performance in games at all.

But it's definitely not going to improve strictly gaming.

Ryzen's definitely an attractive proposition for most people, but anybody currently on a relatively modern IC (Haswell/DC+) who doesn't need >8 threads, really has no need for it.
 
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Are Intel keeping their chipset naming conventions for CoffeeLake?

Wouldn't that put them on:
H370
B350
Z370?

With B350 also being AMD's mainstream option for AM4? Can;'t imagine they'll re-name only the "B" chipsets.

Sorry, off-topic.
 
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